Of course there is. Within a second of anti-social behaviour we have to make a decision as to whether we a) ignore b) speak up in a civil manner c) verbally abuse d) physically challenge the offender etc.. We also take into account the environment we are in etc.
I'm pretty much up to my head with the totally unprovoked behaviour I get on occassion. I can see how a reaction of ignoring (and other soft approaches) may become unsatisfactory after a while. If I don't say/do something about a behaviour then that person is going to do it to others and eventually he/she too may be encouraged by the lack of response to increase the bad behaviour. Someone has to put their foot down at some point.
If you're saying "crude" and meaning "drunk" than yes, sometimes it's better to walk away.
Originally Posted by Lily
It's obvious that the "bad guys" were really drunk, they were in a bar (as mentioned by the author). An excuse for their behavior? Not at all.
True, but agressive generosity toward the person may end the confrontation even more rapidly, and is likely to force an even greater degree of self reflection on their part. I cannot imagine how one would do so in the situatuion listed, and I certainly am opposed to any kind of cowtowing to rudness. So I actually don't know, it just seems like conflict resolution and mediation is a skill one aught to pursue, especially a martial artist.
Originally Posted by Lily
A rational person may act at times as an asshole but when it's pointed out to them in a polite and straightforward manner will cease and desist (or modify) their behavior. A true asshole sees any attempt to restrict their behavior, no matter how egregious, as some sort of grave personal affront and continues or escalates their 'assholic' activities.
In that case it seems like the best thing is calmly to point out the problem until they decide to attacj you... in fact I suppose that sort of thing is how I got in most of the fights I've been in.
Originally Posted by andrewa
Nice one, Mav.
I had a very similar thought on Friday, at a bus stop.
An insane, muscle-bound, tattooed thug got out of his expensive car in mid-traffic (small child still strapped into the passenger seat), and said: "WHAT THE **** YOU LOOKIN' AT? YOU ALL LOOKIN'? I'LL FUCKEN' KILL YOU CUNTS. YOU WANT ME TO FUCKEN' SMASH YOU? DON'T FUCKEN' LOOK AT ME. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS, CUNTS." He then feigned to swing at me, and I flinched like a big sook.
Part of me was thinking: 'If I get hit hard enough in the head, my spinal injury might leave me paralysed. Please don't hit me.' Part of me was thinking: 'Osoto-gari.'
Guess which part prevailed?
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I don't think he actually hit the hippy.
He dragged him outside (remember the old days?) and it seems the hippy figured out he was going to be thrashed and regretted it.
is this the same article that was in Esqiure?
this article just underlines the point that many people believe the rules apply to everyone but them.
and I hope he beat the living **** out of that annoying clapping hippy.
Yes, if you google 'In Defense of the Fistfight' it brings you to the Esquire website.
Originally Posted by Mr. Sandy Claws
like my momma always said, "People treat you the way you let them!".
If I don't say/do something about a behaviour then that person is going to do it to others and eventually he/she too may be encouraged by the lack of response to increase the bad behaviour. Someone has to put their foot down at some point.
if you push far enough into someone's personal space, you can expect some instant karma, as they will become the 'divine agent' themselves.
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