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    In Defense of the Fistfight

    In Defense of the Fistfight

    Why one lippy hippie named Jericho made one writer resolve to start punching jerks again.

    By Chris Jones (more from this author)

    This whole thing started -- or maybe it ended -- with these guys engaging in some ritualistic, Hare Krishna clapping ****. They were sitting at a table across the bar from my buddy Phil and me. We were trying to enjoy a quiet pint in our quiet local on a quiet evening, but these hippies wouldn't quit with their clapping. Swear to God, they might as well have been crashing cymbals in my ears.

    I asked them politely to stop. "Make us," they said, and then they clapped louder, smiling their dirty-toothed smiles at us, twisting our nipples. One of them was named Jericho, I picked up. He was a skinny bearded guy who looked as though he'd wear Guatemalan mittens in winter. "Jerry," I said when they finally took a break, "come on over here, have a chat." He did, and shortly thereafter, he loosed a throat pony into my face. It was Jerry's bad luck that I had resolved to start punching people again.

    It wasn't a snap decision. I'd reached the end of the road after what seemed like a perpetual assault from life's Jerichos -- the sorts of assholes who not only act like assholes but celebrate their assholedom: the grease spot who gave me the forearm shiver in our recreational soccer league and said, "It's a man's game, bitch"; the walnut-headed midlife crisis in his convertible who cut me off and then gave me the finger. It felt like they had me surrounded, clapping in concentric circles. I mean, Jesus, a skinny bearded hippie named after a biblical city had just spit in my face.

    How'd we get here? Blogs are part of it, along with the incessant frothing of TV pundits and reality-show contestants, especially that lippy midget from The Amazing Race: Everybody thinks they're above being edited. And the saddest part is, the Jerichos are right to feel bulletproof. Somewhere along the way, we've evolved into a culture without consequence, taught so much hokum about the bigger man walking away. Yet to appease us, we've also been told that what goes around comes around. What kind of contradictory horseshit is that -- that one day, accounts will be settled, but by the universe? I like karma as much as the next guy, but lately, watching my city behave more and more like an Internet comments thread in the midst of a flame war, I've grown tired of waiting for the planets to balance the ledger. It's like we've started playing hockey without the enforcers, and all the scrubs are tripping up the skaters with impunity. You know why Wayne Gretzky could be Wayne Gretzky? Because everybody knew that Dave "Cementhead" Semenko would fill you in if you fucked with his friend.

    Too bad life changes when we take off our skates -- constrained by fear of cops, by fear of lawyers, by fear of the wife, all of our judges. Not anymore. I would submit, Your Honor, that if someone is doing something demonstrably asinine, and I ask them to stop it, please, and they say, "Make us," they've entered a binding oral contract whereby I am permitted, even obligated, to try to make them.

    And so, before I wiped his spit off my face, I grabbed Jericho by his beard and dragged him outside. By the time I had him squared up, I saw all that I needed to see to know that I'd found a new habit: the regret on his once-smiling face. I was surprised by how good it felt, and I stopped for a second, frozen under the streetlights, satisfied that Jericho was about to make like the walls of that bitch city, and that I was about to settle my own accounts.

    Not many original thoughts on my part. Just thought the guy had an interesting point, or at least an amusing one.

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    There's no question that there are assholes out there who richly deserve a good beating but hide behind the shield of "Touch me and I'll charge you with assault!" In this story I think if someone spits in your face you'd have a good defence before the courts. What the 'spitter' should also realize is in some cultures spitting at someone can get you killed.
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    People needs to get punched in the face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewa
    There's no question that there are assholes out there who richly deserve a good beating but hide behind the shield of "Touch me and I'll charge you with assault!" In this story I think if someone spits in your face you'd have a good defence before the courts. What the 'spitter' should also realize is in some cultures spitting at someone can get you killed.
    It can in this culture. Spitting's assault. Especially by some dirty, aids encrusted hippy.
    There's no choice but to confront you, to engage you, to erase you. I've gone to great lengths to expand my threshold of pain. I will use my mistakes against you. There's no other choice.
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    I know how you feel. These punks in a grocery store tried to humiliate me in front of everyone. It's too bad I didn't beat the **** out of them, but at least I cussed them out.
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    I'm happy to live in a city where any kind of mutual fight is not a crime. So you can punch someone, and they get to decide whether to find a cop etc... or punch you back. Nearly without fail that punch you back.

    That being said I don't think beating the crap out of people is a good answer to the great universe of assholedom. I just don't think it solves anything. These people are fundamentally bullies. They are weak and insecure tripe, that make themselves feel better by making others lives more difficult. Irreverence to these imbeciles is probably the best way to change them, and I'm sure by doing that more than a handful will pick a fight with you.
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    Interesting article. I don't disagree with the author's points, but in the end, isn't this just a "hur hur I punch you if you **** with me," chest puffing excercise?



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    airman - I don't think it's that at all. The writer is not 'looking for a fight' but instead has drawn a line as to how much he will put up with before reacting. Of course over time he could start enjoying it a little too much.

    I'm pretty close to that line these days when it comes to strangers and crude behaviour. I don't see why we should 'just ignore the behaviour and walk away' (as I've been advised on many occassions).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily
    I don't see why we should 'just ignore the behaviour and walk away' (as I've been advised on many occassions).
    Isn't there a middle ground that should be traversed before punching someone in the face?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sheol1980
    Isn't there a middle ground that should be traversed before punching someone in the face?
    Sure there is, but there is also a line where behavior crosses from mild annoyance to actual harrassment. For instance a lady walk past a construction site and the workers wolf-whistle, while that is mildly annoying no one really deserves to be punched over it, even take it as a compliment.

    On the other hand if someone goes beyond that and starts making lewd suggestions of what they could do together, than yup they pretty much deserve to be punched.

    Or in the case above, the clapping is annoying, but no one has yet crossed the line. Spitting in the guys face when he is trying to explain to you your annoying assholic behavior, has again crossed the line.
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