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  1. KayRoc is offline

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    12/04/2007 7:36pm


     Style: Crappling (BJJ Hiatus)

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    Gogoplatas: Dangeresque?

    Quick question about the gogoplata, and its adverse effects.

    So I was grappling at my hizzouse last night - some noob wanted to taste my white belt BJJ goodness. After explaining the whole "tap" concept to him, I take him down flying guard style and get a gogoplata locked in on him in about 5 seconds. The trouble is, he started making gurgling noises, but each time I let up and asked him if he was ok, he said he was. I was only cranking the sub at about half strength cause I don't know much about the possible injuries a gogoplata could do to the windpipe.

    So I gave up the gogo and transitioned to a sub where he could safely be dumb; arm triangle, and got the tap after he almost passed out.

    My question: should I crank on gogoplatas? Are they dangerous to windpipes/throat areas, etc? What is the proper etiquette on this?
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    Posted On:
    12/04/2007 8:02pm

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     Style: SAMBO/BJJ/Judo and others

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    I would say the gogopalatas (sp?) would pose the exact amount of danger to the throat/windpipe area as a guillotine. Chances are it will not pose too much danger to the throat unless the person has some medical condition or if they have a neck injury, I could see it possibly aggravating the neck.

    Like every submission you have to follow basic grappling etiquette:

    -Apply a submission slowly and increasing pressure gradually to avoid injury
    -Make sure the person knows about tapping, and if they are going to grapple with their ego, consider going for something else if you feel you may harm them
    -Be gentle with n00bs and crank when appropriate (competition, fight, etc.)

    Personally speaking, I've never had a problem when I crank the gogo
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    Quote Originally Posted by KayRoc
    Quick question about the gogoplata, and its adverse effects.

    So I was grappling at my hizzouse last night - some noob wanted to taste my white belt BJJ goodness.

    My question: should I be doing gogoplatas?
    No. You should not.
    Captain's Log: Just a little update for all my TRUE and HONEST friends out there:

    1) I am STRAIGHT! I am STRAIGHT! Get it through your thick skulls, numbskulls!

    2) My name is not Ian Brandon Something.

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    Posted On:
    12/04/2007 8:32pm

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    Everything you said in your post was wrong. From the first sentence to the last.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yrkoon9
    Everything you said in your post was wrong. From the first sentence to the last.
    Are you referring to the original poster or myself?
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    Posted On:
    12/04/2007 9:51pm

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    Probably the white belt afraid of murdering people with gogoplatas.
    Captain's Log: Just a little update for all my TRUE and HONEST friends out there:

    1) I am STRAIGHT! I am STRAIGHT! Get it through your thick skulls, numbskulls!

    2) My name is not Ian Brandon Something.

    3) Kacey is coming with me now. I have stolen her from the other Christian Weston Chandler.

    REMINDER: I am still the one and only true creator of sonichu and rosechu electric hedgehog pokemon
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  7. pauli is offline

    i keep tryin to spar, but nothin happens!

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    Posted On:
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    proper etiquette? when there are guests in your house, proper etiquette is to not set upon them with flying murderplatas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pauli
    proper etiquette? when there are guests in your house, proper etiquette is to not set upon them with flying murderplatas.
    LOL. Murderplata.
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    Posted On:
    12/05/2007 12:19am


     Style: Muay Thai n00b

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    That was a situation born of the stupidity of the blind leading the blind. You try to show someone "t3h t4p" who seems like an ego-driven idiot (like most first-timers are) who won't tap until they're on the floor in a puddle of their own snot and drool while you aren't apparently completely confidant in your technique and its application.

    If he was less of an idiot he would've/should've tapped, and you shouldn't have tried just grabbing him and going off for a sub to show off your uber jits powerz (At least that's what it seems like anyways).

    Oh, and my new favorite move: THe Murderplata
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    Posted On:
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     Style: FMA/MMA/HEMA noob

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    Nonono, it has to be a Flying murderplata
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