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    Quote Originally Posted by SUSHI SASHIMI
    Well duh, didn't you know that modern New York city thugs came BEFORE like 400 years ago back in 1989?
    Of course. All martial arts come from sucessful and attractive african americans.

    damn gooks and chinks just like to steal **** from the real creators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by variance
    ok now i'm annoyed.

    On the thread they claim Keysi Fighting Method, Filipino Martial arts and Silat people
    are just copying the 52 blocks thing.
    I've read the thread. One guy mentioned Keysi as an example of a heavily hyped MA that was likely to inspire imitators, then "pakuabp1" said "You cant stop the fakes, the wannabies. Every art has that. Every art has people who duplicate it. No one is immune to that. Its a price for survival. Keysi is coming to the US strong, in Movies, etc. That could be a elder showing whats up, giving value, giving something for black people to see. I dont get it the world is moving and leaving us behind, while we battle over knowledge". Are you reading that as a claim that KFM, FMA and Silat were copied from the 52 Blocks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DdlR
    I've read the thread. One guy mentioned Keysi as an example of a heavily hyped MA that was likely to inspire imitators, then "pakuabp1" said "You cant stop the fakes, the wannabies. Every art has that. Every art has people who duplicate it. No one is immune to that. Its a price for survival. Keysi is coming to the US strong, in Movies, etc. That could be a elder showing whats up, giving value, giving something for black people to see. I dont get it the world is moving and leaving us behind, while we battle over knowledge". Are you reading that as a claim that KFM, FMA and Silat were copied from the 52 Blocks?
    Quote Originally Posted by tukalor

    Sir you can say what you like ,but the bottom line is that the coming of the fake 52 wannabes' are coming along with the ones who are going to pimp this thing to the end like the keysi punks in Europe. As you can see the non-whites are being taught as we speak watch the video again. As Jay-z says Big Pimpin
    Quote Originally Posted by pakua
    You cant stop the fakes, the wannabies. Every art has that. Every art has people who duplicate it. No one is immune to that. Its a price for survival. Keysi is coming to the US strong, in Movies, etc. That could be a elder showing whats up, giving value, giving something for black people to see. I dont get it the world is moving and leaving us behind, while we battle over knowledge
    Maybe i was reading fast. but it seemed to me from those two posts that they were attributing Keysi Fighting method to ripping off the 52 blocks.

    then again their poor command of the english language makes it difficult to ascertain anything for sure.

    Consequently the Keysi Fighting Method is repackaged Silat / Empty Hand Filipino Martial Arts which have verifiable historical roots that go back couple hundred years.




    Quote Originally Posted by DCorganizer
    those BJJ specialists you are training will never be the same...Who is Kareem Ellington? one of your fighters, I googled him, he has over 20 mma fights, is he a professional I saw he fought in japan.
    This also confuses me as he has no matches in FCFighter
    but shows hits in google under IFC.

    I see a bunch of logical fallacies.

    "You won't understand if you haven't served hard time"

    "52 is just boxing" sounds like "Wing Chun is just boxing"

    "We gave you hip hop. it took you 10 years to understand it. It'll take 20 years for you to understand 52"

    and a bunch of other stupid afro-centric ridiculousness.
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    [QUOTE=variance]
    Maybe i was reading fast. but it seemed to me from those two posts that they were attributing Keysi Fighting method to ripping off the 52 blocks.
    I think you were reading too fast; IMO "tukalor" was saying that Keysi is over-hyped (as a warning that the same could happen to the 52 Blocks) and "pakuabp1" agreed with him before seguing (confusingly) into the suggestion that an "elder" could be showing the art for the right reasons, to inspire people etc. and then seguing again into saying that they (52 practitioners) are in danger of being "left behind" if they start bickering amongst themselves.

    Pakuabp1 gets no credit for clear communication, but he wasn't claiming that Keysi, FMA or Silat were copied from the 52s.

    Aside from that, Daniel Marks (who posted the clip and is active in the thread as FarisiDaniel) is well known as an authority on the 52 Blocks; many of the others are just random, anonymous YouTube posters, and their comments don't represent anything more than that.

    Have you seen the clip in which Rashad Evans was talking about the 52s? Note, he doesn't say that he practices the 52 Blocks, just that he did a seminar with Daniel Marks and that he likes it - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMl-B8pNOmo

    Personally I'll wait to see what happens with 52 stylists in MMA. I don't see much in that style that wouldn't be legal in the octagon and some of these guys are obviously in condition for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by variance

    I think you were reading too fast; IMO "tukalor" was saying that Keysi is over-hyped (as a warning that the same could happen to the 52 Blocks) and "pakuabp1" agreed with him before seguing (confusingly) into the suggestion that an "elder" could be showing the art for the right reasons, to inspire people etc. and then seguing again into saying that they (52 practitioners) are in danger of being "left behind" if they start bickering amongst themselves.

    Pakuabp1 gets no credit for clear communication, but he wasn't claiming that Keysi, FMA or Silat were copied from the 52s.

    Aside from that, Daniel Marks (who posted the clip and is active in the thread as FarisiDaniel) is well known as an authority on the 52 Blocks; many of the others are just random, anonymous YouTube posters, and their comments don't represent anything more than that.

    Have you seen the clip in which Rashad Evans was talking about the 52s? Note, he doesn't say that he practices the 52 Blocks, just that he did a seminar with Daniel Marks and that he likes it - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMl-B8pNOmo

    Personally I'll wait to see what happens with 52 stylists in MMA. I don't see much in that style that wouldn't be legal in the octagon and some of these guys are obviously in condition for it.
    I agree with you on the wait and see attitude.
    given how little of "52" you actually see in any of these clips.
    it seems to be more or less just a stylized dirty boxing system.

    still with all the claims and everything behind it. it all feels like red flags.

    and yeah. I guess I did jump the gun misreading those posts like that.
    That's a fuckup on my part.

    but if they can get down, do well and bang it out.
    then they deserve props.

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    Interesting. Most interesting.

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    Don't hate because my people have a system.

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    Thanks for this video sushi.

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    Does anybody have an address to the 52 blocks gym? I want to send them a children's abridged book on anatomy with the important parts that they keep missing written in Crayon.

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    This is some black thing right ?

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