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  1. kekekeke is offline

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    11/29/2007 9:27am

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     Style: Muay Thai

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    Thai MT Fighters suck at Boxing.

    I watch a lot of fights and what has struck me more often than not is that thai MT fighters suck at boxing. Their hand speed is pathetic. They don't throw combinations and their guard is open to all sort of punches especially upper cuts and hooks.

    Just some videos to illustrate the point.

    Mike Zambidis vs. Krongsak Lek
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhWK7lfgW_A

    HIROYA vs. Sakda Lukromklao (hiroya's MT debut)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG90RQOrdI0

    The Great Buakaw vs Masato 2007 k1 max final [ buakaw decides to turn it into a boxing match for some reason ]
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHc0I2zhlTU

    This is one of the main reasons I hate watching a fight between two thai fighters. They just stand square against each other and just trade kicks.

    On the other hand, western MT fighters have decent boxing skills, Rammon Dekkers, Ernesto Hoost, Remy Bonjasky etc. Anyone care to explain why the west puts much more emphasis on boxing than the thais?
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    Posted On:
    11/29/2007 9:57am

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     Style: Striking/Grappling/Poking

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    I would like to add that boxers suck at kicking, and that BJJers suck at single stick and sword and dagger.

    Also: Thai Boxers focus more on kicking because in Muay Thai, kicks score more than punches. Kicks also do more damage, since the legs are padding free.
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    Posted On:
    11/29/2007 10:03am

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Question
    I would like to add that boxers suck at kicking, and that BJJers suck at single stick and sword and dagger.
    And Captain Crunch tastes better than Judo players. It is endless the amount of miscompares that can be made and yet it is so trollishly simple.
  4. red bull is offline

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    Posted On:
    11/29/2007 10:04am

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     Style: artful dodging...

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    heh!
    fuckinA bro, you know your stuff!
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    Posted On:
    11/29/2007 10:17am

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     Style: BJJ/Shidokan

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Only one of those fights is even Muay Thai rules.
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    Posted On:
    11/29/2007 10:20am

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     Style: MT/BJJ

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Where's that vid of the thai MT champ gettin KO'd in the 1st round on that HBO PPV a year or so back. Wish I could remember the guys name. Best part was when Larry merchant said something like "He traveled a loooong ways to get knocked out like that."


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    Posted On:
    11/29/2007 10:32am

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Yeah, and wrestlers are TERRIBLE at submissions!
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    Posted On:
    11/29/2007 10:35am


     Style: Karate

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    hmm true true.

    i for one notice a trend in which all martial artists tend to be crap at crocheting small bobble hats with their eyes closed in an air tight room slowly filling with acid.
    feel free to prove me wrong though 0_0
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    Posted On:
    11/29/2007 10:44am


     Style: Sanda/Taijiquan *Hiatus*

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    Well MT should have some decent boxing skills, it is allowed in the rules. Unlike most of the examples most people have stated.
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    Posted On:
    11/29/2007 10:50am


     Style: Karate

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    right but nomatter how similar some aspects of the styles are the crossover from MT to boxing is still significant.
    the distancing is completely different as you're not expecting kicks and a MT guard would be lower for blocking kicks.
    plus if someone's kicking you its harder to get in with punches so they would naturally be secondarily trained.

    its like saying karateka suck at grappling. sure they learn it but it's not primary technique.
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