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    Quote Originally Posted by PHONEY
    I found out about Bullshido through the whole Milt Wallace Kung Fu stuff and i liked the results Bullshido brought.

    Any way I went to a so called MMA class a few weeks ago but got scamed into a Wing Tsun Class. I spoke to the main Teacher Vik Hothi and I was acting like a MMA noob saying i just found out about the sport of "UFC" through the t.v. And Vik the teacher said he fought in the UFC in the undercard events several years ago. I know its bullshit but I played along.

    He then said he's undefeated in several kinds of combat sports.
    He is such a good Lier he even tricked his local newspaper to publish his stories in there.
    http://www.sloughobserver.com/live/s...p?story_id=151

    Evidence of his claim to fight MMA
    http://forum.kungfumagazine.com/foru...t=39456&page=3


    Also he has joined a new group called IMAS - Very good read lol
    http://imas-uk.com/inst_vik.html

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    I smell vendetta/competition- but then again, I often do.

    I haven't found any site on which he claims to have fought in the UFC, so at this point we have an anonymous person saying he claimed to do so.

    The story about "being a good Lier [sic]" says he's working in a new gym and is entering a competition (what I perceive/assume to be an escrima competition)

    Hothi's site states:
    Sifu Vik Hothi
    Sifu Vik has been practicing martial arts for nearly 20 years. After achieving a black belt in karate at an early age and winning many local tournaments he moved on to WTF (full contact) Tae Kwon Do and became regional champion, training with the Great Britain squad. He was introduced to Leung Ting's Wing Tsun in 1995 and became the youngest 1st TG (black belt) at the age of 17. Sifu Vik opened his first class at age 18 and a little while after started training in Brazilian Jujitsu and Muay Thai boxing. Looking for an effective weapons system, Sifu Vik found Escrima and training with 'Big' Paul Leslie and Master Steve Tappin in 2001. As a competitive martial artist Sifu Vik became the WT Fighter Club champion, and eventually coach, after fighting and winning 100 full contact limited rules fights (with head guard). Sifu Vik has also fought in MMA competitions an most recently in the 'Call2Arms' Escrima/MMA arena.
    Sifu Vik's pursuit of martial arts excellence led him to begin his studies in sports science and physical culture, and as a result was one of the first people in Europe to use Kettlebells for martial arts in Europe (2000). Recognising that leading-edge training techniques require an increased focus on the safety of the martial artist or athlete being taught, Sifu Vik sought and acquired certification from two of the most respected sports science coaches in the world - Pavel Tsatsouline and Scott Sonnon, becoming the only instructor in Europe qualified in both Russian Kettlebells (RKC) and Circular Strength Training (CST). Sifu Vik is now a highly-respected sports and martial arts coach, having trained K-1 and Escrima champions. Sifu Vik is the longest serving practitioner of WT in the UK, completing the whole WT system. and is the most experienced instructor in the practical use of the art, both in the competitive arena and on the 'street', having worked as a Door Supervisor for a number of years.
    Sifu Vik is now the Chief Instructor for IMAS, using his in-depth knowledge of martial arts and sports science to produce superior martial artists in a rapid timescale.
    So he won fights in the "WT Fighter Club". Dr Tzun Tzu might know what this is. Medium fish in a small pond, perhaps, but he calls it what it is, not the UFC.

    The KF thread you reference, with an appearance by Tom Kagan nonetheless, only has someone say "seems hes now sponsored by a martial arts supply company and unbeaten in full NHB fights (so I was told by a friend)".

    So your evidence is a rumor and your claim that you, whoever you are, were told by Hothi in person that he fought in the UFC? I'm no expert, but as the above poster mentioned, the Call2Arms looks on the surface to be pretty legit. It doesn't say anywhere that he's "undefeated."

    More likely over-enthusiastic friends/students/intra-WT rumor mill exaggerated the situation and/or you're a troll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ironlurker
    I smell vendetta/competition- but then again, I often do.

    I haven't found any site on which he claims to have fought in the UFC, so at this point we have an anonymous person saying he claimed to do so.

    The story about "being a good Lier [sic]" says he's working in a new gym and is entering a competition (what I perceive/assume to be an escrima competition)

    Hothi's site states:


    So he won fights in the "WT Fighter Club". Dr Tzun Tzu might know what this is. Medium fish in a small pond, perhaps, but he calls it what it is, not the UFC.

    The KF thread you reference, with an appearance by Tom Kagan nonetheless, only has someone say "seems hes now sponsored by a martial arts supply company and unbeaten in full NHB fights (so I was told by a friend)".

    So your evidence is a rumor and your claim that you, whoever you are, were told by Hothi in person that he fought in the UFC? I'm no expert, but as the above poster mentioned, the Call2Arms looks on the surface to be pretty legit. It doesn't say anywhere that he's "undefeated."

    More likely over-enthusiastic friends/students/intra-WT rumor mill exaggerated the situation and/or you're a troll.
    I agree it seems the OP has an agenda.

    still this part concerns me to an extent.
    Sifu Vik is now a highly-respected sports and martial arts coach, having trained K-1 and Escrima champions
    Trained K1 and Escrima champions?
    Champions in WEKAF? Possible.
    K1 sounds a little fishier.
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    I agree it seems the OP has an agenda.

    still this part concerns me to an extent.


    Trained K1 and Escrima champions?
    Champions in WEKAF? Possible.
    K1 sounds a little fishier.
    Yeah, it could be, but it's pretty vague. Purposefully? Who knows. Did he do a kettlebell seminar with them, teach them TKD or WT when they were teenagers, was he in their corner? Misleading/resume padding maybe, but it doesn't say he taught them the ultimate WT to blaze a path to glory.

    If he is/is not the youngest WT blackbelt or "longest serving" WT guy in the UK is another matter, but I for one have no way of evaluating this. I don't know if WT uses the vanguard-party system or the Leninist-cell model, but I'd think someone would know if these points were true or not within WT.

    Basically, I've yet to see where he's a liar and a scam artist, which are big words to throw out by someone who quotes an umpteenth-hand rumor in a post as Hothi's "claim'.
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    i know i checked too i thought he might of ment MMA fights but just said UFC cos I was acting like a noob. I found out from some one he was promoting an MMA EVENT but on the day of the show when all the tickets were sold he cancelled the show and kept the cash. Not a very nice person
    Do you have any sort of dates or records on that?
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    Hey Guys!

    First off i'd like to say that you could of put a better picture of me up there, i mean come on! That was after 3 days of hard training and testing.

    In regards to the allegations against me, what can i say except phoney is living up to his name. i dont want to get into a war of words so i'll just clarify a few things and if Phoney has anything to say in response he can do it at the call2arms in april (so he has time to do a couple of laps around the park while listening to Rocky on his iPOD so he feels ready) - evolution format.

    As has been correctly pointed out on this forum (thanks to the guys that had the integrity to check and post honestly) i have NEVER fought on the undercard to the UFC, although i'd love to! As for my fight record, i dont know why he's made it such a big deal (although in the WingTsun circles it is as none of them really fight anymore) about it - i have training partners and friends who have far better ones! I'm sure i have some of my medals from my TKD/karate days around but i think it would be a little childish to start posting pics of those! When i got heavily into WT i used to go over to Denmark regularly and train in the famous (among WingTsun/WingChun people) Fighter Club, with thier champion who is a good friend and former training partner of mine Nic Osei. Check him out on youtube, very good mma fighter and escrimador, going for a European title fight soon i believe. I then introduced the Fighter Club to the NWTO in the UK where i fought 100 times to earn the right as coach - because of the person in charge of the organisation at the time we stopped it soon after as it was'nt the direction he wanted the organisation to go. All i have is my 25, 50, 75 and 100th fight certificates and a few videos of them so feel free to come down and have a look - MY STUDENTS ALREADY HAVE. I have fought in amateur (no punches to head etc) and pro mma fights a few years ago but due to injury could not progress as far as i wanted to. I also had a falling out with a promoter that really dissillusioned me about the whole sport at the time. Things have changed now and i will be fighting mma again next year. I NEVER said i was an escrima world champion but i did say i had trained one - Amo Singh - who became the heavyweight full contact escrima world champion in Escrima Concepts (under master Steve Tappin). I was to fight in the British Championships but they got cancelled at the last call2arms but i will be fighting in the World Championships next year (I believe Master Steve and others will be organising that). I have indeed worked with a rising star on the K-1 circuit, who was a training partner of mine and good friend and in the contest i helped him prepare for his most destructive performance at that time knocking out his opponent in the 2nd minute of the first round. I think i'll see if he'll write a little something on my site - speaking of which - i didnt join IMAS, i founded IMAS!

    I would just like to conclude with a quick thank you to Mike Dunnage (who's tournament call2arms i have the privellage of attending and fighting in) who was kind enough to inform me about what this clown had been spurting out. I love the martial arts and everyting they have done for me and the people around me - i would never want to sully it with lies for what ever little gain i would get. Phoney should of participated in the class and maybe train with us to see if we were the real deal - you know - been upfront and get a real view of me and my class. Not cool.

    Thanks for your time,

    yours in the arts,

    Vik Hothi

    P.S. organised an mma tournament, cancelled at the last sec and kept the cash - come on man! Who the hell does that!?

    P.P.S. If there are any further questions, please feel free to email me at; wtvik@yahoo.com
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    Hey Vik, I believe I fought in the same call2arms event as you a few months back.
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    Case closed?

    Would PHONEY care to explain his agenda?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PHONEY
    He is such a good Lier he even tricked his local newspaper to publish his stories in there.
    http://www.sloughobserver.com/live/s...p?story_id=151
    There are no outrageous claims in that link. In fact there are no claims at all, it's just a piece about a dojo opening or something.
    Evidence of his claim to fight MMA
    http://forum.kungfumagazine.com/foru...t=39456&page=3
    So you post a forum thread, from another forum, as "evidence" for your own shitty thread?
    Also he has joined a new group called IMAS - Very good read lol
    http://imas-uk.com/inst_vik.html
    Yes it is a good read, looks like the work of someone with a lot of experience in hard-contact martial arts who's done well for himself.

    In conclusion: Your dumb attempt to randomly defame this guy, possibly to get yourself some Internet Tough Guy points, has fallen on its arse, please apologise. Or better, take up Vik's offer of fighting at Call2Arms. I'm sure you'll have a great time.
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    Maybe Vik would like to weigh in on DR TT's Latosa Weapon system thread.
    being from the same WT art as him. He might offer a different view on DTT's escrima techniques.

    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...t=62920&page=7

    Being that it's been established he is legit
    has trained and competed and applied his art under pressure.

    I think he would have good constructive insight and criticism for that thread.
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