^ actually i think that silat is pretty brutal, but dont really think it would be good against anything else. Do you notice how when "sparring" or what ever it was, that once a move is executed, the "defender" just goes with the fucking flow and doesnt do anything to counter the move until after it is finished? and after each punch they pause as if the blow had that big of an after shock. Like when bill elbowed the fat guy, he just caught him off guard because the move was kind of in a too fast paced execution compared to the other combos of silat. and the ring of fire..... why bother with it?! the fire was so small
anyways one thing caught my attention.
a legend about the 1950's ... seriously now
legend has it that .... in the 1950's .....
Bill was selling those "deadly shoulder strikes" big time. Overall, though, the Silat featured on the show was not as goofy as some other demonstrations I've watched.
Case in point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfgW82ZI3ao
I've never seen Silat in action before and now have the impression that it is just bad karate:dead:
When that one master spoke of living and training in a cave for 3 years and fighting a death match with a British martial artist who he killed with a single blow I was hearing the Bullshido theme song in my head.
lol you and Poidog came to mind when I was watching this episode.
Originally Posted by selfcritical
Is it so hard for them to not make arts look like a LARPfest?
and I thought the escrima episode was bad.
this thread needs some good silat videos to eye-bleach out this episode.
Last edited by variance; 11/24/2007 12:05pm at .
All I have to say is yeah!!!
There is an episode worse than the Kung Fu one.
whats everyones ranking for the episodes?
Originally Posted by It is Fake
I think the best ones were MMA, Judo, Bokator, Muay Thai, Sambo
Worst ones were Kung Fu, Silat, Karate and Escrima
I'd put Karate as mediocre. The mistake and things were bad but, not on the level as the other 3 IMO.
Originally Posted by variance
Yes it does.
Originally Posted by variance
Are there any?
The two you posted actually EMPHASISE this important point ;
Originally Posted by Purpleskunk
Okay yes, you need to post some sparring vids variance. Although, in training everyone goes with the flow.
Yes, even you MMAers and BJJers go with the flow when you first are taught the techniques.
The problems arise in TMA because, many schools keep doing compliant drills. Instead of focusing on sparring and trying the techniques from fully resisting opponents.
This kind of cemented my feeling that as much as I love silat, I would almost always choose an instructor who was good at silat AND something else. A lot of the techniques are great but the method they drill those attributes into you in the traditional styles are just horribly inefficient. I was never able to pull of silat techniques against fully resistant opponents until i was rolling in shooto on a regular basis(what's weird is now that i have some basic wrestling knowledge, i'm actually using silat techs pretty regularly, especially in greco style clinches). I think this is a big reason why my silat teacher choose to abandon the jagabaya curriculum this year and reorganize the lessons into formats based on common gross motor movements, more like dumog.
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