I had the same experience, which is why I found the pendulum sweep, scissor sweep, and basic subs from guard much more effective. However, when I was working on the sit-up sweep, I did exactly what you were doing, attacking to get them to posture up, then going for the sweep. I would attack with the collar choke, or even better just get one cross-grip and trap one of his arms to my chest and swing my hips out like I was going for an armbar. As soon as he reacts, I'd either fake for a pendulum sweep and then go to the sit-up sweep or sit up immediately into the sweep. Pretty much any of the basic subs from guard require the guy to escape properly by posturing up, which is when you can hit the sit-up.
Originally Posted by Slindsay
Then again, the newaza at the judo dojos I trained at was never top notch, so I got away with a lot of **** I shouldn't have.
You know when shamu slides over and onto land?
Originally Posted by Das Moose
Like that, works great when you're fat.
Hahahaha, yeah, I'm only kind of fat and I pull that sometimes, with varying success. I'm assuming you're talking about a full guard pass, where you just lunge forward over the guy and then scramble to get side control or north-south? I love that move, not because it's very effective, but because it's really funny when it works against someone who's never seen it and can't believe you just did some sort of fat kid move and passed his guard.
No, not really.
I'm talking about a properly executed pass. Given that you keep continuous contact and slide down their body to side control and I've gotten somewhat pudgy of late, it reminds me of shamu.
The one I'm talking about is not what you'd call proper, but it sometimes works, and is always funny. You pretty much just lunge forward, laughing. Everyone should try it.
No, they really shouldn't.
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