His prices might be lower if you are willing to lock into some insane contract length. Generally you can get a much better price if you sign up for a 2 year program or something of that nature. Obviously that's mcdojoish, but it's pretty standard from what I've seen of schools everywhere. I would really suggest checking out the drive to Megaton's one day and see if it's any faster than your current gym, just in case.
Lol, yeah man, I know. The problem is that I work out here, so no moving for me.
Originally Posted by It is Fake
I'm pretty serious about my training. Though I don't know if I will actually compete, I can say that I take my training as seriously as if I was competing, and I train equally hard during sessions. Competition is definitely on my mind, though.
The big reason, really, is time. It just takes so long to get out to anywhere from my house. I think I'll take Kitanon's advice and make the drive one day out to Megaton's place, just to check it out.
Well, I actually didn't mean for this thread to turn into an "advice" thread so much. I guess I was looking for opinions, but it was more about the IBJJA stuff, and what happened with the original semi-investigation. I just threw my questions in there so I wouldn't make more threads.
Originally Posted by G8
I can't speak for anybody else, but $20 is $20. If it's a waste, then it's a wasted $20. I'm no balla, son!
But really, it's not that he didn't have some nice little handout of his prices, it's that he intentionally avoided my question twice before he finally answered it, and even then it was a vague statement using "usually" and "about". Maybe it just hit me so hard because that's such a stark contrast from the MT gym I had visited 15 minutes prior.
All-in-all, I think I'll make the drive to Megaton's, and probably try out the intro class at Laurita's.
Aside from that though, any opinions on the IBJJA thing? Anyone else want to chime in about whether I should worry about gaining rank at a school associated with it?
I wouldn't think twice about it; like I said, as far as I know, they put out solid competitors, & all that really matters is whether you can back your rank up on the mat. as for it hurting your credibility as an instructor ... man, you're light years away from even needing to start thinking about that. no doubt megaton's school is fantastic, but if the other one fits into your lifestyle better, I sure wouldn't be worried about training there.
Originally Posted by Tangent
I previously posted this on another thread, you may find it useful in looking for a school to train at.
I’ve been living and training in Arizona since I moved here in 1996. The following is a pretty comprehensive list of grappling, mma, and a few boxing and kickboxing schools available in the Phoenix (and Tucson) area. I’m sure that I probably have missed a few but the way schools have been opening (and closing) around here it’s hard to keep track of them all.
Be forewarned I would venture that a good 90% of the schools around are crap. Every guy with mats and some rental space (or garage) has some sort of “school” or “fight team” now. Every other Karate and TKD school around now claims to be offering “grappling” or “mma” classes too. There are a few places (that shall remain nameless, I don’t feel like receiving any hate mail right now) that look like a million bucks but you won’t learn **** training there. Many are relying on conning the ignorant, figuring that they can fool the uninformed into believing that if the place looks real nice (or if they give a good sales pitch) it must be good. There are some real shady operators out there trying to cash in on the current mma boom, although I imagine you could probably make that same claim about martial arts in general and not be too far off.
Many/most will try to get you to sign a contract, some are pretty damn expensive too (anywhere from $90 to upwards of $180+ per month) in addition to sign up and association fees. Some may be worth the price others are definitely not worth even half of what they may be charging and others you couldn’t pay me to train at all.
This should keep you busy for a while.
G's school fuckin' rocks (Gustavo Dantas, not Diaz). Great people to roll with, great instruction. Lally's are building a sponsored fight team there. Robson Moura goes there to train with the team before competitions.
Originally Posted by Tangent
Megaton's place does too. Great instruction, great base of people to roll with. Mundials competitors, top competition team.
Jerry's a decent option, but not in that league.
What about the Relson school in Phoenix?
Gah, I meant Dantas, not Diaz.
Originally Posted by chingythingy
Sorry - no experience and no opinion. Haven't heard much about it, which doesn't mean anything either.
Originally Posted by DuckofDeath
Jerry is the real deal, and to be honest if you have never ran a martial art studio, dont talk smack about price, its a tough job with a lot of overhead and Grass roots campaigning. The $20 isnt about taking your $20, first off, you will learn far more with that $20 than you have in a long while, second its about a commitment on your end, to weed out the users of the FREE class school hopers.(and then to get a review that is hum drum at best, bro if $20 is a big deal than don't go writing mma school reviews. To not give outstanding reviews of someone who lives and breaths this is a bit of a slap to the face) While i recommend that you train with many different arts as you can, please respect that this is how we feed our selves and family. the cost of everyday living ie. gass, food, insurance for the school, advertising, no one is getting rich and yet we bleed for our art. All of this is shared with love from an instructors point of view.
We spend enough time on people who are wishy washy (and thats part of the deal we get it.) If people flench at $20 than they are probably not long term friends or teammates. The reason we wait until after to tell price is the same in any sale, there is NO dollar value if i just go ok well its $1000 a month. whaaa? If you try a class, see and feel the level of instruction. Then theres value, at only $125 per month. im in !!!sign me up
With love include me-
Wow. Welcome to Bullshido. You have just woken a 4 year old thread to defend your pricing. Prepare for the onslaught...