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  1. bitparity is offline

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    11/10/2007 2:26pm


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    Is it possible to purposely lose muscle mass?

    I'm sure this is a stupid question that'll get shuttled off to gitmo, but I thought I'd ask.

    So I consider myself a fit overweight individual. I weigh 210, but I can run, have decent cardio, grapple to hold my own, even though i'm still 30% body fat.

    The problem with being 200+ is you inevitably develop tree trunks of legs. This is great for keeping and holding a guy in guard, pushing people off quickly, etc. lotsa things you can do there, but it's absolutely terrible for triangles because I have short stubby legs.

    I'm currently in the process of changing my diet and losing some weight, but of course, that's trimming the fat. I have a feeling even if I get down to my ideal of 170 that I'll still have massive legs that feel impossible to triangle with, so with that, I thought I'd ask this question, is it possible to selectively lose some of this tree trunk leg muscle and thin it up? My quads are 24" around.

    I mean, I get these legs because I'm propelling a 210 lbs body all the time, will the leg muscle naturally go down once I'm thinner, or am I stuck with this, because I'd love to have the ability to triangle someone.
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    11/10/2007 2:41pm


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    It's probably your technique as much as your weight. I would just keep working on your skills and fitness and everything will just "click" one day.

    I cannot believe your legs are any bigger than Jeff Monsons
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    Posted On:
    11/10/2007 3:23pm

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    170 mmight be a bit lower than you think it is. I'm sure if you hit 190-180 you will be fine. Just aim to lose fat and see how it goes, 30% bf is a bit much. Also, if you have stubby legs, you hav stubby legs. Some people's bodies are better suited for cetain moves, yours may not be the traingle. I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanniballistic
    It's probably your technique as much as your weight. I would just keep working on your skills and fitness and everything will just "click" one day.

    I cannot believe your legs are any bigger than Jeff Monsons
    Or Rhadi Fergunson's. The OP needs to develop his own technique to make it work with his physical attributes. I've read something said by Eddie Bravo (don't remember where), in that he sees two physical attributes that are important for triangles:

    1.) Hip and hamstring flexibility (think porno spread eagle)
    2.) Hamstring strenght (and calf/glute strenght) - think HULK SMASH strenght.

    bitparity, you are a big dude with brontosaurus legs, so I doubt you'll have a strenght deficit in your legs. Therefore, it may have to do with your hip, hamstring and knee flexibility. It's all in the hips. And you need to find a way to utilize your hips and increase its flexibility in a way that works with the physical attributes you currently have.

    You can lose muscle size if you want, but legs are the last thing that shrink. Dropping weight and losing mass is no cakewalk; it would require you to work out with a caloric imbalance, and you can really **** up your health if you overdo it. And, if you still have a 30% body fat, losing lean mass is the last thing you want.

    You should focus your diet in reducing your body fat %, not only decreasing the thickness of your legs. Chances are that you'd be better off asking your instructor on tips to work your triangles and on how to better use your hips.

    Good luck.
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    Posted On:
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    Good to see she's back Macho!

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