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  1. UpaLumpa is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatherdog
    That's a bit of an overstatement. At worst, he'll be another Coleman.
    I was going to post something witty in agreement but I've got nothing.
    Instead all I'm left with is "hahaha".
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    He'll draw a big wwe crowd, but I can't see him as a legitimate threat to any top tier fighters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asia the Invincible
    Still alive AND still won an Olympic Bronze medal.
    Gardner's a footnote in wrestling history compared to Karelin, who deserves a whole chapter.

    What, me bitter? Nah.
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    You can beat someone once and still not be better than they are - you just had a better day than them.

    Did Gardner beat Karelin? Yes, unquestionably. Sure, it's one point, sure, it's a new rule, sure, he stalled the rest of the match - but even given that the point from Karelin breaking grip was a little cheap, how many men on the planet could prevent Karelin from scoring a single point on them after that "cheap" point? Has anyone other than Gardner ever taken Karelin to a draw?

    Gardner's gold medal performance was the match of his life, and he never looked that good again, before or after. And he'll always be overshadowed in wrestling's history by Karelin, just like everyone else who's done Greco - and rightly so. Karelin was and is the best ever, and he'll always cast a long shadow over anyone who laces up the wrestling shoes. But on that day, Gardner won, cleanly and fairly, and no matter how much I love Karelin (and believe me, I've got a hardon for russian wrestlers) on that particular day he lost.
    Undisputed KING OF ASSHOLES.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanniballistic
    Lashley has less charisma than a dose of the clap
    I knew Frank and he's a nice guy but I didn't see the Prowrestling thing coming. He's a beast and would great in MMA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnp
    Gardner's a footnote in wrestling history compared to Karelin, who deserves a whole chapter.

    What, me bitter? Nah.

    *under blanket* LEAVE GARDNER ALONE!!!!!


    (You're right, of course, but thats beside the point)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asia the Invincible
    I knew Frank and he's a nice guy but I didn't see the Prowrestling thing coming. He's a beast and would great in MMA.
    I will buy that actually

    The problem with Lash was that when he was a strong silent monster type he was great - he would have been a great "enforcer" type character. Unfortunately he comes across pretty poor as a promo, and consequently his in-ring (which is limited at best in 'rasslin terms) suffers
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatherdog
    You can beat someone once and still not be better than they are - you just had a better day than them.

    Did Gardner beat Karelin? Yes, unquestionably. Sure, it's one point, sure, it's a new rule, sure, he stalled the rest of the match - but even given that the point from Karelin breaking grip was a little cheap, how many men on the planet could prevent Karelin from scoring a single point on them after that "cheap" point? Has anyone other than Gardner ever taken Karelin to a draw?

    Gardner's gold medal performance was the match of his life, and he never looked that good again, before or after. And he'll always be overshadowed in wrestling's history by Karelin, just like everyone else who's done Greco - and rightly so. Karelin was and is the best ever, and he'll always cast a long shadow over anyone who laces up the wrestling shoes. But on that day, Gardner won, cleanly and fairly, and no matter how much I love Karelin (and believe me, I've got a hardon for russian wrestlers) on that particular day he lost.
    You and Asia are right. Gardner fought the match of his life that day. It's just that I hero-worshipped Karelin so much as a young wrestler that even today, many years later, it's hard for me give Gardner credit for the win. Gardner does deserve credit for winning though. He'll always be the guy that beat Karelin.

    I'll stop derailing this thread now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatherdog
    You can beat someone once and still not be better than they are - you just had a better day than them.
    Your telling me!
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