Kenpo guy stops the shoot in this video.

**docwolfe** · Posted On: 11/02/2007 9:10pm

I'm a noob and am really looking at taking some Kenpo. I found this video on youtube and am extremely curious about how Mr. Soto stops the shoot in the beginning. On other website his response to someone asking that question was:

Hello everybody,

thanks for watching the videos and for posting.

About the question of the "shoot" I stoped my opponets momentum by canceling his dimensions with a pushing check at his hip, ading a ridge hand to the groin and an elbow like "Locking Horns" techinque, I hope that helps, thanks again and take care,

Respectfully,

Any thoughts? If this is the wrong forum, I'm sorry. Kenpo is a striking art and my question didn't seem to fit the other forums. If I'm wrong, well, I'm a noob.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgDUyhzksmc

**docwolfe** · Posted On: 11/02/2007 9:16pm

I'm serious. I'm looking for a striking art and I've been told Kenpo is the mother off all... blah blah blah..

**money** · Posted On: 11/02/2007 9:32pm

Wow, that video was ludicrous.

Originally Posted by docwolfe

I'm serious. I'm looking for a striking art and I've been told Kenpo is the mother off all... blah blah blah..

I believe you've been told wrong.

**saman** · Posted On: 11/02/2007 9:44pm

Please! A bunch of bitch slaps and a kick in the ass :ingun: :ingun: ! How is that an ART? If you want the real deal go to a good hapkido school. NOT Hapkido Self-defense - real honest to god Korean hapkido. If nothing else, kenpo just plain looks silly and the victims seemed very willing and passive. That arm lock is used in lots of arts.

**Teh El Macho** · Posted On: 11/02/2007 9:49pm

Originally Posted by docwolfe

I'm a noob and am really looking at taking some Kenpo. I found this video on youtube and am extremely curious about how Mr. Soto stops the shoot in the beginning.

That was not a shoot. That was an idiot performing a rendition of what he thinks is a shoot (ending up being a retarded paraplegic zombie attack). You wanna see a real shoot, a fast and powerful one, done by someone who knows? Then observe Mark Kerr

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-t_1N4d6oc

Or Kid Yamamoto

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvhq9PIod6I

Or Frank Shamrock

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3Sjq9XOIzA

Or like these guys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6JAZNmm43c

Let's see if Mr. Soto can deal with that.

Originally Posted by docwolfe

Any thoughts?

That video is retarded, and so is Mr. Soto. Stay away from that ****.

Originally Posted by docwolfe

If this is the wrong forum, I'm sorry. Kenpo is a striking art and my question didn't seem to fit the other forums. If I'm wrong, well, I'm a noob.

No prob.

Originally Posted by docwolfe

I'm serious. I'm looking for a striking art and I've been told Kenpo is the mother off all... blah blah blah..

You have been told what amounts for blah blah blah. Sorry.

**ronh** · Posted On: 11/02/2007 9:51pm

how Mr. Soto stops the shoot in the beginning.

With a lot of mutual participation.

It's like the "attacker" wanted to get hit in the balls and have his takedown fail. I believe that somewhere someone is practicing some form of Kenpo that is really effective, but it's not there

P.S.

The ass slap was the best.

**EternalRage** · Posted On: 11/02/2007 10:03pm

Originally Posted by docwolfe

I'm a noob and am really looking at taking some Kenpo. I found this video on youtube and am extremely curious about how Mr. Soto stops the shoot in the beginning.

You realize that was a demo right? Everything in that video looks very much choreographed. Nearly all those attacks, and responses to the initial counters were ridiculous.

The shoot was terrible. No one will ever come lumbering in with their hands out and head down like a drunken bear with down syndrome. Go find shoot vids on youtube by grapplers and then compare. That isn't to say that a knee or elbows can't stop a shoot, but the way it's portrayed in that video is pretty stupid.

Any thoughts? If this is the wrong forum, I'm sorry. Kenpo is a striking art and my question didn't seem to fit the other forums. If I'm wrong, well, I'm a noob.

Better off in YMAS or newbietown.

**dwak** · Posted On: 11/02/2007 10:35pm

I didn't see a single SHOT in the whole video, I didn't even see a bad tackle, I saw I guy bending over then pretending to be hurt.
notice to everyone, its called a SHOT not a shoot, shoot is a fucking verb, do you say 'he did a punching' or 'he did a threw'? no you say he threw a punch, or he did a throw, likewise he took a shot, everyone stop butching the terminology and the english language.

**Anna Kovacs** · Posted On: 11/02/2007 10:40pm

Kenpo would be a great martial art if your martial arts goals are to wave your arms and legs in a really spastic martial art looking manner and make a career out of posting bad videos on you tube or perhaps as a C movie actor.

**Roidie McDouchebag** · Posted On: 11/03/2007 12:24am

It's extremely effective when combined with sparring and actual grappling. My former instructors are examples of this, one of which you can find here (who would kick the asses of 99% of posters here, including every staff member except, MAYBE Omega):

http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/f...FighterID=8092

However, I've gone through that exact sequence shown above with other, less MMA-based Kenpo guys and stalled them at every step, stopping their strikes and submitting or taking them down at will due to ****-for-base and superfluous movement.