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  1. Eldarbong is offline

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    Low Kicks in a street fight

    I have wondered how this would work for awhile now. I used to think this was crazy. In your typical fight with average people (no serious training etc), whoever connects with a bomb first tends to win. But, I have heard other people say lowkicks WOULD in fact work in a streetfight, but I just don't see how this would work. I have been on the receiving end of hard lowkicks by huge guys, and I don't know if it was luck, or their experience and technique+luck, but my calve started stinging bad immediately. Still though, you would need a big guy to really deliver a lowkick with any effect in a strike or two, I doubt you would land 30 lowkicks in a row in a streetfight.

    Anyways, do you people think that lowkicks have any place in a streetfight, or only if your name is Ernesto Hoost, Lloyd Van Dams etc? Anyone actually used lowkicks in a streetfight? Discuss.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdbRuiKFgW0

    No, you don't have to be big to deliver a decent Thai kick. I'm suprised someone who trains MT is asking this.
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    Hellzya. It keeps them guessing. Left jab, right cross followed by right leg roundhouse. You can throw it high, or smash it into the knee/thigh. Even if it doesnt take them out of the fight on the first kick, it gives them some pain, and something to worry about. They dont just have to watch for your d3adly hands, they have to keep an eye out for those stinging lowkicks.
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    I once landed a low inside kick in a street fight. It wasn't a very good one but it threw him off balance a bit and gave me a chance to move in and grab him by the shirt to start hitting him.
    That one ended in a draw though. Cops broke it up.
    I would smash a guys knee out with a kick if he really deserved it and was much bigger than me. Not the sort of thing I would just do randomnly though.
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    I'd worry about getting high enough on the ball of my foot & getting enough rotation for a shin kick to work in a street fight. I guess if you were on grass or smooth tile the rotation would would work but shoes would be a problem with getting on the ball of the foot.

    I would definitely front and oblique kick all day long in a street fight though.
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    11/02/2007 3:02pm


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldarbong
    ... But, I have heard other people say lowkicks WOULD in fact work in a streetfight, but I just don't see how this would work.
    The kind of low kicks I'm thinking of are delivered with a steel toecap to the shins during a grabby-shirty clinch, rather than long-range thai kicks or even thrusting kicks to the knee.
    Shoes and boots make a huge difference to the potential of the right kind of kicking on the 'deadly streets'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seanyseanybean
    No, you don't have to be big to deliver a decent Thai kick. I'm suprised someone who trains MT is asking this.
    I never said that at all. Anyone who has trained MT and sparred with people who are <150 lbs and people who are >200 lbs would tell you that all else being equal, the low kicks of the bigger guy will hurt much worse, quicker, than the smaller guy.
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    11/02/2007 3:32pm


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    I don't disagree there.

    This is the bit i disagreed with

    Quote Originally Posted by eldarbong
    Still though, you would need a big guy to really deliver a lowkick with any effect in a strike or two
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    From my personal experience, I've noticed that people are considerably lighter on their feet in an actual fight than when your spar in the gym. This translates to a much higher chance of you being able to stagger them or even completely sweep them.

    I've only done this twice, but in one case he was staggered enough to stumble to his hands, and in the other case another guy's feet came out from under him. I'm sure this isn't ALWAYS the case, but like I said, people's footwork seems to be looser outside of actual training.



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    Are we forgetting the fact that most people in the str33t can't fight for ****, they think they are alpha males when in reality they are not *, are completely unbalanced, are not grounded, bounce and keep their hands down (or try to do a rendition of what they think is the bastard child of boxing, Muay Thai peppered with stuff from Ong Bak), either fight completely flat in front of you or completely sideways?

    More importantly, are we forgetting that such people have never been at the receiving end of a really good kick, and who usually lose the will to fight if they get their faces rattled hard a couple of times? What do you think the reaction of such people would be if you shin-kick them in the tights, just above or behind the outside of the knee?

    And lastly, are we forgetting that we usually wear shoes (hopefully hard sole shoes), which can make things very interesting, where interesting means "really fucking funny and awesome"?








    * Now, if the aforementioned person is a real alpha male and a scrapper, then things are different. Fortunately, most people are not, specially those who brag about it.
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