Phoenix Eye and other theoretical strikes.

**Guizzy** · Posted On: 10/29/2007 6:00pm

Originally Posted by BackFistMonkey

I will now began teaching Phoenix Eye Kung Fu .

Go forth, build me an army of rib punching monkeys! :XXmonkey:

**golsa** · Posted On: 10/29/2007 7:25pm

Originally Posted by Guizzy

Ask and ye shall recieve

Now, how one could dislocate his thumb that way is beyond me.

Looks almost exactly like how I was taught to go barehanded in Kali, except we were taught to use the middle finger. Your way actually looks like it has better support for the raised knuckle in general thrust type strikes. What kind of angles and such do you strike with? Extra support from the index finger while the middle finger is raised for some angles is the only reason I could fathom doing it different than yours.

**Jim_Jude** · Posted On: 10/29/2007 7:26pm

Originally Posted by selfcritical

Well generally, fists are less likely to hit hard bits while working the body. And pretty much garunteed to do so while hitting the head. Which is what I find people usually mean.

That's what I usually mean. As a general rule, I try to use open hands from the shoulders up & only punch to the torso.

**Jim_Jude** · Posted On: 10/29/2007 7:28pm

Originally Posted by golsa

Looks almost exactly like how I was taught to go barehanded in Kali, except we were taught to use the middle finger. Your way actually looks like it has better support for the raised knuckle in general thrust type strikes. What kind of angles and such do you strike with? Extra support from the index finger while the middle finger is raised for some angles is the only reason I could fathom doing it different than yours.

The extended index knuckle works good with straight shots to the face (knuckle in eye), middle finger works well with hooks to the ribs....

**golsa** · Posted On: 10/29/2007 8:19pm

Originally Posted by Jim_Jude

The extended index knuckle works good with straight shots to the face (knuckle in eye), middle finger works well with hooks to the ribs....

haha well, I guess thats pretty much what I thought.

**xingyifa** · Posted On: 10/30/2007 3:53pm

Isn't the whole idea behind this technique to use the extended knuckle to penetrate teh deadly pressure points? (ie bullshido)

**jkdbuck76** · Posted On: 10/30/2007 4:47pm

I don't know about "d34dly". I can't think that I'd ever hit to "annoy" or "numb" muscles and nerves....but then again I've never been a LEO, a nurse at a mental institution (my oldest sister is).

I'd have to agree with the other guy earlier, if I'm hitting, I'm going to hit with the front of my fist and I'm going to try to clobber the guy into next week.

**RunningDog** · Posted On: 10/30/2007 4:51pm

Originally Posted by Guizzy

Ask and ye shall recieve

Now, how one could dislocate his thumb that way is beyond me.

are your hands teeny-tiny or really big? I can't work it out.

**TehDeadlyDimMak** · Posted On: 10/30/2007 4:55pm

Why are you asking...

**xingyifa** · Posted On: 10/30/2007 5:20pm

Originally Posted by Jkdbuck76

I don't know about "d34dly". I can't think that I'd ever hit to "annoy" or "numb" muscles and nerves....but then again I've never been a LEO, a nurse at a mental institution (my oldest sister is).

My point was not meant to reopen the "what are pressure points good for?" debate, but rather to say that if this technique was developed and based on BS TCM theory, then it's probably rather outdated on today's MA scene...