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  1. Guizzy is offline
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    10/29/2007 7:00pm


     Style: Baihequan, Judo

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    Quote Originally Posted by BackFistMonkey
    I will now began teaching Phoenix Eye Kung Fu .
    Go forth, build me an army of rib punching monkeys! :XXmonkey:
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     Style: sport Aikido & Judo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guizzy
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    Now, how one could dislocate his thumb that way is beyond me.
    Looks almost exactly like how I was taught to go barehanded in Kali, except we were taught to use the middle finger. Your way actually looks like it has better support for the raised knuckle in general thrust type strikes. What kind of angles and such do you strike with? Extra support from the index finger while the middle finger is raised for some angles is the only reason I could fathom doing it different than yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by selfcritical
    Well generally, fists are less likely to hit hard bits while working the body. And pretty much garunteed to do so while hitting the head. Which is what I find people usually mean.
    That's what I usually mean. As a general rule, I try to use open hands from the shoulders up & only punch to the torso.
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    Posted On:
    10/29/2007 8:28pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by golsa
    Looks almost exactly like how I was taught to go barehanded in Kali, except we were taught to use the middle finger. Your way actually looks like it has better support for the raised knuckle in general thrust type strikes. What kind of angles and such do you strike with? Extra support from the index finger while the middle finger is raised for some angles is the only reason I could fathom doing it different than yours.
    The extended index knuckle works good with straight shots to the face (knuckle in eye), middle finger works well with hooks to the ribs....
    "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
    ***Was this quote "taken out of context"?***

    "The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
    ~ The Secret of Judo (Jiichi Watanabe & Lindy Avakian), p.19

    "Hope is not a method... nor is enthusiasm."
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    Posted On:
    10/29/2007 9:19pm


     Style: sport Aikido & Judo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Jude
    The extended index knuckle works good with straight shots to the face (knuckle in eye), middle finger works well with hooks to the ribs....
    haha well, I guess thats pretty much what I thought.
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    Isn't the whole idea behind this technique to use the extended knuckle to penetrate teh deadly pressure points? (ie bullshido)
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    I don't know about "d34dly". I can't think that I'd ever hit to "annoy" or "numb" muscles and nerves....but then again I've never been a LEO, a nurse at a mental institution (my oldest sister is).

    I'd have to agree with the other guy earlier, if I'm hitting, I'm going to hit with the front of my fist and I'm going to try to clobber the guy into next week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guizzy
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    Now, how one could dislocate his thumb that way is beyond me.

    are your hands teeny-tiny or really big? I can't work it out.
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    Posted On:
    10/30/2007 5:55pm


     Style: Sanda, BJJ

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    Why are you asking...
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    10/30/2007 6:20pm


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jkdbuck76
    I don't know about "d34dly". I can't think that I'd ever hit to "annoy" or "numb" muscles and nerves....but then again I've never been a LEO, a nurse at a mental institution (my oldest sister is).
    My point was not meant to reopen the "what are pressure points good for?" debate, but rather to say that if this technique was developed and based on BS TCM theory, then it's probably rather outdated on today's MA scene...
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