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  1. Kintanon is offline
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    Yes, I am smarter than you are.

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I don't think I can maintain butterfly against him, I can barely manage to keep full guard for more than a few seconds if he's really trying to pass. I'm just happy knowing WTF was going on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Das Moose
    He won't tell you? What the ****?
    My thoughts exactly. Every single person that I've rolled has explained me how they got me, what I did wrong and what to do to prevent it, and they remind me while we roll to defend against it.

    I woulnd't be so polite with that douche bag, though. I would simply say, loud and clear for others to hear (including the instructor) that I don't want to roll with him since he keeps subbing me with the same sub and yet refuses to explain, and that I come to roll and learn, and not to be used as an ego-stroking sub dummy.

    Chances are that if he does this to Kintanon, he also does it to others. Embarrassing his ego a little may actually wake him up to stop being such a gigantic ****** douchebag.

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    Another possibility is to talk to your instructor in private and explain your concern on this, and ask him to remind the others students next to explain their less experience partners how they got submitted and how they can defend against it next time, that this is not a sub tourney, but a school and they are all partners in it.

    Again, my take is that this guy may not only do it to Kintanon but to others as well, and if there is a way to implement some corrective action, even if it involves calling him on it, the better for everybody involved.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kintanon
    PizDoff: Does that move feel like a neck crank? I'm not getting choked by whatever he's doing... The arm position there looks right for the way it feels like he's grabbing me.
    It can be. When my instructor (or some other brown belt or purple) does it, it does feel like a choke. But when we drill it with some of the other guys, it feels like a neck crank even when I let them sink (while we drill it.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kintanon
    Yeah, my next issue becomes, WTF do I do with him from my halfguard now? lol. That's a whole 'nother set of problems though. The guy outclasses me to a degree which is slightly annoying since he keeps subbing me with the same move. The other guys that dominate me that badly are kind enough to switch it up and sub me with different things, or point out what I should be doing instead of handing them submissions openings.

    If I were you, this is what I would do: I would ask the instructor to set up a private lesson where you just go over the half guard position. I'm not a huge fan of privates because I learn more by rolling with a bunch of different people in regular class, but they are great on occassion if you have a specific technique or position you want detailed instruction on.
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    Apparently Adam (School owner/instructor) is psychic, this is the second time that he's directly addressed something I was concerned about pretty much immediately after I started being concerned about it. So I don't think I need any privates just yet. Now that I know what's going on I can work on it with other people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kintanon
    Apparently Adam (School owner/instructor) is psychic, this is the second time that he's directly addressed something I was concerned about pretty much immediately after I started being concerned about it. So I don't think I need any privates just yet. Now that I know what's going on I can work on it with other people.
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