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    Who did Igor fight and how did the fight go?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greese
    Every 6 months Rickson is supposed to fight someone...it never happens.

    It never will.

    It just makes sense...the gracies have said since jump that Rickson was their best. He has fought well enough that it is believable. Why would you ever put your undefeated dude out there where it is possible he could lose when most people say is 400-0?

    You don't and you won't.
    Agreed.

    He talked **** about "the proof is in the pudding" when Chuck was brought up. Then talked more **** about other MMA guys.

    Either fight or stop talking about it. Of course they have nothing to gain from it. BJJ guys are getting beat on a regular bassis now. Not a reflection on the art, its just the cats out the bag. Why send a Gracie out and get his ass beat like Royce. Its only gonna hurt what they have so carefully built.

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    I fail to see what fighting a guy who has already lost to Royce (albeit under a shadow) will prove or acheive - there is no mileage in beating a past-his-prime Sak anymore...and god forbid what the fallout would be should Rickson lose!

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    Rolles was looking good there, roll on the new gracies.

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    does anyone know how rockson died and how that led to rickson quitting competition, all I've ever heard is that rickson quit competing because rockson died

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanniballistic
    I fail to see what fighting a guy who has already lost to Royce (albeit under a shadow) will prove or acheive - there is no mileage in beating a past-his-prime Sak anymore...and god forbid what the fallout would be should Rickson lose!
    he lost to royce while half braindamaged and while royce was juicing
    and it was by POINTS. and not even a significant lead at that.

    It wasn't KO. It wasn't submission

    You can barely call that a legitimate victory.

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    Rockson died in a hanggliding accident IIRC. Rickson has used that as an excuse not to defend his 400-0 record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawarma
    Rockson died in a hanggliding accident IIRC. Rickson has used that as an excuse not to defend his 400-0 record.
    Rockson died and Rickson hasn't competed since then but you're confusing his cause of death with Rolls (who died hang gliding in 82)

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    Quote Originally Posted by variance
    he lost to royce while half braindamaged and while royce was juicing
    and it was by POINTS. and not even a significant lead at that.

    It wasn't KO. It wasn't submission

    You can barely call that a legitimate victory.
    You totally miss the point.

    Sak is now "damaged goods" regardless of the manner of victory (hence "under a shadow") as far as his "feud" with the Gracies is concerned and has not been a top level fighter for some time

    What once has a novelty value is now essentially meaningless

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    Who is this guy you are talking about? Is he one of Royce's brothers or something?

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