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  1. ONE TWO THREE FOUR FIVE is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by truepwrz
    yesterday a senior student in judo class showed me the ippon seio nage at the end of class and let me do it on him a few times seemed good but wondered what would happen if the opponent was resisting...

    so my friend that got off his boxing saw me on the way home so i decided to ask him to sock me a few times while trying to throw him, after around 20 attempts i finally got one good throw on him....

    can any judo pros give some tips on how to apply that throw in a real fight situation or competition
    I'm no Judo pro but might I suggest that if:

    a senior student in judo class showed me the ippon seio nage at the end of class and let me do it on him a few times
    And your thoughts on it where:

    seemed good
    Then perhaps you need to practice it few more times before you can realistically expect to throw someone with it, and incidentally when you:

    wondered what would happen if the opponent was resisting...
    The answer really should have been "Exactly the same thing in class seeing as I practice on an opponent thats resisting."

    Also, Gitmo.
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    You can't just expect this stuff to magically work against someone in a real fight if you've only practiced it in one class against someone who was letting you throw him. You'll need to practice it against someone who is resisting a little next, then against someone who is reisisting a lot, then against someone who is resisting and trying to counter you. After that, randori. Then, it may work for you in a fight.

    There are no magical techniques that'll always work. But once you've practiced something so much that it's second nature, it's not a stretch to make those techniques work in a fight.
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    Hit him first then throw him.

    Seriously
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    That ^^ Or clinch and throw.

    Srsly.

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    Yes, hit and throw works great. Also, cover up your head well, and get into body to body clinch range. This is the range you need to throw from, generally.
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    Also if you're going against a Boxing type striker I would believe lower body throws - doubles and what not are probably better than upper body ones or at least have a lower risk of getting hit.
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    Another issue with Judo throws in a fighting situation is grip and control (assuming the have close on)

    Outside grips - meaning where there arms are on the inside, are no good as they don't stop you from getting jacked in the face.

    Your grip and control should be either on the wrists, crook of the elbow, or under hooks where you're "pinching the arms.

    If you want to train and practice Judo style takedowns with striking I suggest you find some sport jujitsu style comps. ( you can look it up an YouTube.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by truepwrz
    thanks for the advice, i also want to know what do most of you do when trying to throw a striker(i threw my friend he was a throwing a rather wide hook)
    1. Do judo until you can actually throw another judoka with the throw in randori some of the time

    2. Work into a clinch

    3. Throw the striker from the clinch

    4. Don't post any more threads like this until you've actually used the technique in question in live judo a few times. Understand? We don't want to see "How would I use osoto gari in a streetfight" next week the night your teacher shows you that, OK?
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh El Macho
    Did somebody delete my post?
    Also, who made it look like I started a thread titled "tips to apply seio nage in a real fight?" Because thats just not nice.

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