Question about David Herbert 's Hapkido School in New York City?

**bradNYC** · Posted On: 3/30/2008 10:11pm

Originally Posted by hpr

My advice is that you shouldn't take seriously anyone who talks about Ki/Chi powers with a straight face. That video would make me consider another school.

There is a physical technique involved in that takedown. He's just messing around with the hand jestures.

Also in response to the guy who was concerned that Herbert didn't know Chang Chinil. Most Hapkido dojangs only share a common name as the syles are loosely linked. I wouldn't stake too much on lineage in an art like this where everyone seems to claim their lineage is the best. Meet the master, take some intro classes and you'll know what's right for you.

**hangooknamja88** · Posted On: 3/31/2008 8:33am

Originally Posted by hpr

I'm no expert on Hapkido, but

A) The wheelchair demonstration was pretty wtf.

and B) My advice is that you shouldn't take seriously anyone who talks about Ki/Chi powers with a straight face. That video would make me consider another school.

Ki is legit.

**Ronin.74** · Posted On: 3/31/2008 1:09pm

Originally Posted by hangooknamja88

Ki is legit.

Proof please.

**hangooknamja88** · Posted On: 3/31/2008 2:13pm

Originally Posted by Ronin.74

Proof please.

how the hell do u expect me to prove this online?

**Hex** · Posted On: 3/31/2008 3:23pm

Originally Posted by hangooknamja88

Ki is legit.

Oh dear....

**Ronin.74** · Posted On: 3/31/2008 4:14pm

Originally Posted by hangooknamja88

how the hell do u expect me to prove this online?

Vids of people performing techniques involving Ki would be nice. Perhaps you could provide your definition of what Ki is exactly? To alleviate confusion.

**Vorpal** · Posted On: 3/31/2008 4:25pm

Hold on to something, massive thread derailment coming!

**hangooknamja88** · Posted On: 3/31/2008 4:38pm

Originally Posted by Ronin.74

Vids of people performing techniques involving Ki would be nice. Perhaps you could provide your definition of what Ki is exactly? To alleviate confusion.

My definition of Ki is our energy. it's rather hard to explain it in words. It's not some mystical type of energy like white people or McDojo's make it out to be. Ki can be felt in a person's aura. I'm guessing that a few times, you have met a person who gave a strong impression. Or perhaps you can see it in their eyes and you can tell that this person is different than others. I'm not doing a terrific job of explaining it but I'm hoping some people understand what I'm trying to say. I suppose when they talk of controlling your ki, it could be explained something like releasing a certain amount of adrenaline willingly. It's rather hard to find anyone with a considerable amount of ki nowadays. With modern culture, it becomes harder to focus at all.

does that somewhat make sense?

**Ronin.74** · Posted On: 3/31/2008 5:28pm

Originally Posted by hangooknamja88

My definition of Ki is our energy. it's rather hard to explain it in words. It's not some mystical type of energy like white people or McDojo's make it out to be. Ki can be felt in a person's aura. I'm guessing that a few times, you have met a person who gave a strong impression. Or perhaps you can see it in their eyes and you can tell that this person is different than others. I'm not doing a terrific job of explaining it but I'm hoping some people understand what I'm trying to say. I suppose when they talk of controlling your ki, it could be explained something like releasing a certain amount of adrenaline willingly. It's rather hard to find anyone with a considerable amount of ki nowadays. With modern culture, it becomes harder to focus at all.

does that somewhat make sense?

So are you saying that it has MA application or not?

When hpr stated, "My advice is that you shouldn't take seriously anyone who talks about Ki/Chi powers with a straight face. That video would make me consider another school."
I assume that he is referring to people who claim to be able to use Ki/Chi power to fend off attackers or give themselves superhuman power when performing technique.

I agree with him that this kind of thinking is laughable. When you say that Ki is legit you are siding with the people who think Ki/Chi can be used to accomplish superhuman feats. So is that what you believe?

**hangooknamja88** · Posted On: 3/31/2008 6:12pm

Originally Posted by Ronin.74

So are you saying that it has MA application or not?

When hpr stated, "My advice is that you shouldn't take seriously anyone who talks about Ki/Chi powers with a straight face. That video would make me consider another school."
I assume that he is referring to people who claim to be able to use Ki/Chi power to fend off attackers or give themselves superhuman power when performing technique.

I agree with him that this kind of thinking is laughable. When you say that Ki is legit you are siding with the people who think Ki/Chi can be used to accomplish superhuman feats. So is that what you believe?

i do believe that it has MA application.
I'm not saying that harnessing ki will make us super human freaks, but it is applicable to exert more than a normal amount fo strength