Posted On:10/22/2007 12:00pm
Style: FMA, Jujutsu/Judo/SAMBO
Unlike many supposed deities, holy men, miracles, etc., I have actually seen (and tasted) spaghetti. And it is good! If I was going to be down for a religion, this might be the one. Arrrrrrghhhhh!
**** you math class
Posted On:10/22/2007 5:58pm
Style: TKD, Ballet, Archery
oh goddamnit it's 2005 again
This game is really hard and GIJoe6186 is a ******.
Color photos of the late Tsarist Russia.
Posted On:10/22/2007 8:51pm
Style: No-Gi BJJ
Originally Posted by MEGA JESUS-SAMA
oh goddamnit it's 2005 again
And this brings me to my experience with Our Noodly Beloved.
In early 2005 I was in my junior year of high school. That makes me young and still semi-retarded, but nevertheless, I was (and probably still am) a kid who wanted something to prove. My friend and I stumbled upon http://www.venganza.org and immediately had lulz. Not just minor lulz, but those kind that plant ideas in you, those kind that make you want to take it a bit further. You may or may not see where this goes from here.
School was a wonderful time for growing up, but more importantly, dicking off. So when my friend and I stumbled upon FSM, we immediately recruited three other teenagers, with attitude. I purchased the finest (read: cheapest) pirate shirt I could find, cutlass (high quality plastic) and even an eyepatch. Thus we started a crusade to change the student body forever. It started out peacefully enough. Friday would roll around, I'd dress in my jeans, put my cutlass in the loop near the painter's pocket, don my shirt and I was ready for school.
I made sure not to force my religion on anyone, and neither did any of my friends, but when asked why the hell we were dressed like moronic sailors in the middle of English class, I couldn't help but share why I did what his guiding Noodliness told me to. My other friend, and now roomate, had the look down. Real seaman's boots, frilly pirate shirt, it was perfect. We looked the part of the pirates, and we did the work of his holy stringy one.
But we took it one step further than just looking and explaining. We had a roster of everyone we had recruited to our cause. Your name had to be signed in triplicate, and you had to purchase a eyepatch/earring combo (we made a FORTUNE off of these things... Like 40 bucks) and you had to understand the reason for being a part of the religion. We carried around a big binder that had all sorts of handouts and tracts that we had created to help push the sales of our religion, and people bought it like hotcakes.
When classes would split up on religious bases, we'd argue for FSM's sake, and we devoutly ate at Fazolli's every Friday.
I think in total we had 5 teachers and 300 students (at a school of 1600 k-12, not bad) aware of our cause, and signed on our roster. But just as it seemed that we were knocking down the doors of anti-piracy, and braking barriers in Intelligent design, my cutlass was taken from me. Then the eye-patches were forced away from us. Then the earrings. The next year they had an extremely strict dress code, and my soul wept for the FSM. We tried as hard as we could, but the school wouldn't budge in restricting our religious practices.
It was the end of the FSM revolution, but no doubt we had at least spread the noodles of enlightenment to those in need. They could take it if they wanted to. It was offered to them freely, and the choice was theirs to take it. We were quashed out, and only the strong remained steadfast in their practice. Sneaking off during lunch to make mad dashes for an off campus lunch too far away for them to ever make in time. Their tales will be echoed through those hallowed halls for eternity. May the souls of the faithful finally come to rest in his noodly appendiges.
I'm not witty enough for this custom title.
Posted On:10/23/2007 12:08pm
Style: In Hiatus
cyril, you should've tried starting another religion.
Or you could've joined the Cult of Cod.
Posted On:10/23/2007 12:22pm
Style: San Da, Judo, BJJ
Thats hardcore cyril!, I bet you sometimes "aaaarr" in your sleep.
Posted On:10/23/2007 1:41pm
Style: Judo newb
That was the best pastafarian witnessing I have ever heard. Peace upon you, brother...or is it more respectful to call a pastafarian "me hearty" or "matey" or just "arrr"?
And actually, I wouldn't mind seeing pastafarianism being represented at a world religions council. I think after a while most pastafarians would just get bored, unless they have actual goals with which to keep pastafarianism from fading.
Really, I look for three things to a legitimate belief system - I suppose legitimate is the wrong word - I look for three things in order to maintain some sort of discussion over when it comes to religions: explaining the absolute truth, explaining who we are, and explaining our role in the absolute truth. Absolute truth means...well, basically think of it as the Grand Unified Theory of Everything - as we are seeing more and more this can be complex, but often can start with a seed idea, like "Everything is illusion" or "Everything comes from God" or "Everything started when the FSM waved it's noodly appendage".
Explaining the self I think is pretty simple to grasp as a concept; any need to further define that? If not, I'd like to hear what a pastafarian's take on such things as consciousness, the self, and the concept of souls.
Our role in the absolute truth is also important, and can be very different from one religion to the next. Basically it's the whole "Why are we here?" question, and for some religions, the answer is "Oh...no reason, really. We just are." What does the Gospel of Fat Tony have to say on this? (Is there a gospel of Fat Tony? There totally should be a Gospel of Fat Tony.)
Basically, take it from the point of mucho extreme amnesia. You're sudenly aware, you don't know how, or where you are, or really much of anything. What do most people ask first?
Where am I?
Who am I?
What am I doing here?
If you have some sort of reasonable (or at least civil, since ideas of what's reasonable can be varied) explanation, then I'm willing to let you have your say.
So far all I know in regards to these questions in pastafarianism, is that all of reality comes from a source who is sentient. So far I agree completely. Is this source a flying mass of spaghetti? Well, I don't have a way to test that, but it COULD be. The ultimate being I believe in takes many forms, so why not appear to some as spaghetti? That's good stuff, right there - spaghetti.
Although, one point in the doctrine that I've heard conceivably could be tested . It is still considered that global warming is caused by the decline of pirates, right? There's the whole correlation data...
Well, either we could see if piracy HAS declined (internet and musical and all that, not to mention there ARE still ocean pirates out there), or we could try to increase piracy in the world to see if it helps with global warming. If you could take this aspect of the pastafarian religion and prove it true, it would lend towards credibility of other parts being true.
OR, if you're claiming these beliefs simply as a sarcastic joke, I think you'll get tired of it long before I do.
Last edited by Ajamil; 10/23/2007 1:44pm at .
Posted On:10/23/2007 7:31pm
Well, it started as a sarcastic joke, and was pushed along by popularity. It became a pop culture event at our school, if you will. Like scientology, it was in vogue, and everyone was doing it. But after things got too rough, we quit out fight. The main point of FSM is that you have to fight for your religion to be a part of every discussion involving evolution, creationism, intelujent dezine, and other things like that, just to be an ass and prove a point.
For me, I helped to keep it going because I don't like it when people lack empathy. I personally was tired of seeing out christian dominated school have its students not understand that intelijunt dezine would involve teaching a buh-million other things that they had no clue about, and would only slow down our school's ability to teach science. One theory is as good as another, and I don't care how we went about it, there's no reason to teach every other possibility of our planet's beginning.
As far as that empathy statement, I used FSM as a vessel to show my fellow students that they had to respect my beliefs, no matter how absurd, because they couldn't prove it wrong (without using the bible, I mean. Nothing was funnier than seeing the look on their face when you described God as a giant clusterfuck of noodles), and that, politically correctly, I had to have a say in anything. It helped a lot of them realize their "religiousism".
It was fun, educational, and a rewarding experience. I do not have to stick with it forever.
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