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  1. ZENLO is offline

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    toshindo

    I'm new here and I'v searched around to look for a thread that discredit toshindo. I've seen some members mention very breif information about this style but no true evidence of anything just from what we all see on my space and youtube. Can someone guide me to the appropriate thread so I won't make a mistake on my search for a good martail art.
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    Hello ZENLO, ive heard Toshindo is very watered down, from what ive heard your better off learning martial arts from a 9 year old. hope that helped a tiny bit

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    Check youtube, there are a ton of To-shin Do videos posted there currently.

    If you're interested in what the general teaching style is like check out

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ij5yEVkIy0

    If that is the kind of thing you're interested in, and you have a local group, consider checking them out. If you are thinking about doing their DVD program only, consider finding an alternative gym or school instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone Wind
    Hello ZENLO, ive heard Toshindo is very watered down, from what ive heard your better off learning martial arts from a 9 year old. hope that helped a tiny bit

    -Lone Wind
    Watered down? Thats funny coming from a Bujinkan.


    Anyway for the original poster. Toshindo is Hatsumi's Taijutsu mixed with Okinawan Karate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plasma
    Watered down? Thats funny coming from a Bujinkan.


    Anyway for the original poster. Toshindo is Hatsumi's Taijutsu mixed with Okinawan Karate.
    out of curiousity, do you know where the name "Toshindo" came from or what it means?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plasma
    Watered down? Thats funny coming from a Bujinkan.


    Anyway for the original poster. Toshindo is Hatsumi's Taijutsu mixed with Okinawan Karate.
    What karate and how so? Never heard this before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone Wind
    out of curiousity, do you know where the name "Toshindo" came from or what it means?


    Toshindo is a "pun" on the nin kanji. To = blade and shin = heart where the nin kanji is two kanji "blade" and "heart"


    i am not defending toshindo, but the fact a bujinkan called something watered down is very funny. Bujinkan is a watered down as JMA gets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plasma
    Anyway for the original poster. Toshindo is Hatsumi's Taijutsu mixed with Okinawan Karate.
    Hayes never claimed to nor expressed interest in mixing Okinawan Karate into his material.

    Got any proof to back up that claim?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plasma
    Toshindo is a "pun" on the nin kanji. To = blade and shin = heart where the nin kanji is two kanji "blade" and "heart"


    i am not defending toshindo, but the fact a bujinkan called something watered down is very funny. Bujinkan is a watered down as JMA gets.
    my school sometimes has some good sparring, but if you want to call it watered down your entitled to your own opinion. But besides that i spar with my friends like nuts outside of class all the time. But really i wasnt calling it watered down, i just heard it was watered down so i took their word for it.
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