10/20/2007 12:01pm, #21Originally Posted by switchblade
I think if you got to the point where you were willing to snap a guys limbs to end a fight the elbow, knee, wrist, ankle would be your safer options legally.
10/20/2007 12:04pm, #22
In this playground scenario, I think Annatrocity is correct. Just beat the sixth grader into submission.
10/20/2007 12:53pm, #23
You've taken 4 fucking classes and you're talking about breaking arms and snaping joints.
You may be a MMA noob but you sure are a poser black belt.
10/20/2007 12:55pm, #24Originally Posted by Abusivemelon
10/20/2007 2:26pm, #25
Originally Posted by switchblade
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When I was working on bjj my instructor always made us think about "what now?" after a lock or getting dominant position. Makes sense because in a self defense situation you pretty much have 4 choices:
1) maul the guy to the point he can't attack you anymore
2) put him in pain compliance and pin until you have help
3) put enough hurt on him to make him think twice about the fight
4) choke him out
1 & 4 both have serious legal reprocussions unless your life is at risk.
2 works great if there is a really high chance of a security guard or cop coming along in a few minutes (and lets face it, that isn't going to happen most places), but needless to say its a reallllll bad idea if the next person walking down the street is his other junkie friend.
3 is the best I can come up with for most situations. Its a risk and all, but so is spending 5-8 years in jail because you destroyed a drunk's knee because he got belligerant.
10/20/2007 2:43pm, #26
I've been told if you have to defend yourself you damage the other person until you are out of harms way then hi-tail it out of there. If you cant leave the scene, make sure you are the person who calls the cops. I'm no lawyer, I don't know. Nowadays, most lawyers don't even know the law.
I can only imagine how horrible 5 years in jail would be. When I had to defend myself I was in Tennessee. I immediately felt regret for injuring the other person, even though he attacked me. Then I realized I was in frickin Tennessee, and pictured myself on one of those old-time chain gangs (do they still have those?). It sucked. All I did was react to a situation without having time to think of the motivations, intentions, or consequences.
10/20/2007 2:56pm, #27
Originally Posted by h_sh_m
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10/20/2007 3:09pm, #28Originally Posted by AnnaTrocity"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." ľ Voltaire.
10/21/2007 1:00pm, #29
Originally Posted by GuiltySpark
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And just for the record, I'm a pretty passive person, and I've never been in a d34dly st33t fight. EDIT: If I was, I'd try to do as little damage possible and get away.
EDIT: When can I get this noob banner taken away?
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10/21/2007 1:21pm, #30
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I remember one fight before any kind of training besides fourth grade TKD. I was in high school; beat the guy up a little, got him in a pin and offered to end it there since there was no longer any point. He agreed and attacked me as I was letting him go. Two years later there was a fight in the park where we all hung out and it ended in a similar fashion. Except the guy who was in my place (pinning his opponent) pushed himself off the other guy as he was letting him go so as to create more distance. He then walked away backwards so as to still be facing any potential attack. Seemed to work pretty well.
Personally I think I would try to pin the guy in side control or a north-south position (he's on his back and I think the position makes it easier for you to get up and get some distance). Another point about holding the guy in a pin is that most people, and this is primarily the one's with little experience on getting out, will struggle alot and flail aimlessly so if you hold the guy for a minute or two, you've expended much less energy and he is pretty worn out. I've grappled with friends of mine who found out I do Judo/BJJ and I can recall a few people who were struggling alot when I was in mount and gave up out of sheer exhaustion before I went for any kind of submission.