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  1. Bolverk is offline

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    Why not just do dumbbell bench presses? You would get exactly the same supination that occurs with these ridiculous little gadgets.
    Knowing it is not enough, we must apply.
    Willing is not enough, we must do.

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    Cuz it will rob you of the opportunity to throw your money away :eng101
    Read this for flexibility and injury prevention, this, this and this for supplementation, this on grip conditioning, and this on staph. New: On strenght standards, relationships and structural balance. Shoulder problems? Read this.

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    Posted On:
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    The military realized that 73% of Navy Seals were on disability after 20 years of service so they spent an entire year researching why and found that it was the traditional weight training exercises that did the damage.
    Did they not think that being shot at might have been the cause of the some of the disabilities? If this article started with 73% of body builders ended up on disability after 20 years, it may have had a little more credibility in the second statement.
  4. Bolverk is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh El Macho
    Cuz it will rob you of the opportunity to throw your money away :eng101
    Good point. :flipando:
    Knowing it is not enough, we must apply.
    Willing is not enough, we must do.

    Never approach a Bull from the front, a Horse from the rear, or a Fool from any direction!

    He who dares not offend cannot be honest. -- Thomas Payne
  5. isol8d is offline

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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh El Macho
    Cuz it will rob you of the opportunity to throw your money away :eng101

    so I'm better off doing plyometrics with my bags of money?

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    Guys, I bought the Perfect Pushup tonight. I plan on trying it out, but bought it for other reasons. My girlfriend has been struggling with exercising with her chronic carpal tunnel. I brought it home, she got down and busted out some girl pushups and about flipped.
    "My wrists don't hurt with these things! Honey, thank you!" *SMOOCH*
    Yeah, I might get lucky tonight...

    EDIT: Yep, got some! She even jumped in the shower & shaved her legs & other pertinent areas...
    Last edited by Jim_Jude; 10/18/2007 10:39am at .
    "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
    ***Was this quote "taken out of context"?***

    "The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
    ~ The Secret of Judo (Jiichi Watanabe & Lindy Avakian), p.19

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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolverk
    Why not just do dumbbell bench presses? You would get exactly the same supination that occurs with these ridiculous little gadgets.
    Seriously, DB bench or a free-motion machine pushup will do you better
    Tough is not how you act, tough is how you train.
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    Whoa WTF, if you aren't having sex whenever with your girlfriend, it should be because she's waiting at the end of the line.
    Last edited by feedback; 10/18/2007 2:54am at .
    Tough is not how you act, tough is how you train.
  9. LI GUY 1 is offline
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    Posted On:
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    You know you can buy pushup bars? That should be fine for someone with carpal tunnel or any wrist problems. In fact I think pushp bars are better than the Perfect Pushp, it's just a gimmick. Why put your rotator cuffs in that position? Seems like its more injusry prone as the movement isn't fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LI GUY 1
    You know you can buy pushup bars? That should be fine for someone with carpal tunnel or any wrist problems. In fact I think pushp bars are better than the Perfect Pushp, it's just a gimmick. Why put your rotator cuffs in that position? Seems like its more injusry prone as the movement isn't fixed.
    Yeah, well, for another $20, I can get some tricky spinning ones. Won't be the first time I spent a little more money for a handy gimmick, & I'm sure it won't be the last. Hell, I blow more taking my girlfriend out to a shitty movie. I forked out extra for my LifeLine jump rope & it was definitely worth it.

    Besides, it's better than buying into the gimmick that 299.44% of all fights end up with dry humping Brazilian-style on the ground...
    "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
    ***Was this quote "taken out of context"?***

    "The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
    ~ The Secret of Judo (Jiichi Watanabe & Lindy Avakian), p.19

    "Hope is not a method... nor is enthusiasm."
    ~ Brigadier General Gordon Toney
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