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  1. gzk is offline

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    10/16/2007 8:21am

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    The website, and Youtube videos (search 'Wu Xing Dao') seem to reek of Bullshido, in fact, I'm not sure how you could make it seem more Bullshido if you tried.

    What do you think? Is anyone in Sydney willing and able to take a look?
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    10/16/2007 3:52pm


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    Now I'm no expert but that guy might just be the last dragon! I am pretty sure I saw THE GLOW during a couple of those videos. I think when you use tag lines and advertisements like "The Invisible Master" you pretty much set yourself up to be another Ashida Kim. And if you don't get THE GLOW reference go watch Berry Gordy's The Last Dragon. Its a perfect example of what happened to MA in the 70's/80's and why it is the way it is now.
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    Posted On:
    10/16/2007 7:33pm

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    Invisible master? Self-owned.
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    10/16/2007 9:34pm


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    I have a friend who practices Yang Mian kung fu which is what the founder of WXD used to practice. He broke away and started his own style based on YM without any sort of teaching authority or licence from the current headmaster. That's about all the information I can tell you guys, hope it helps.
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    Posted On:
    10/17/2007 5:05am


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    I was looking into this style a while ago when I was looking for a Chinese MA in my area.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yamaarashi
    I have a friend who practices Yang Mian kung fu which is what the founder of WXD used to practice. He broke away and started his own style based on YM without any sort of teaching authority or licence from the current headmaster. That's about all the information I can tell you guys, hope it helps.
    When I was doing research on it I found a thread on MAP.

    http://www.martialartsplanet.com/for...7&page=1&pp=15

    The thread isn't specifically about Wu Xing Dao, but the original post had some interesting details in it.

    There are 2 known teachers in Sydney and they charge something like $60 -75 ph
    www.yangmian.com ( Master Yang)
    and
    http://www.invisiblemaster.com/ ( Sifu Marko Vesse)

    Marko was Yang's senior student until they parted on bad terms , and Marko set up his own school.
    Yang claims Marko did not complete training, and is therefore limited in skill.
    Who knows, I'm not taking sides.
    I'm told Yang forbid his students from communicating / fratenising with other students
    Go figure.
    This would correlate with Yamaarashi's post about it being an offshoot of Yang Mian.

    There is a also thread here on Bullshido on Yang Mian.

    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=17633

    EDIT:

    Another forum, another thread, same story.

    http://www.sportzblitz.com.au/Forum/...?TOPIC_ID=3324

    I think it's safe to assume it does come from Yang Mian.
    Last edited by Evil Solvalou; 10/17/2007 6:37am at .
  6. curls69 is offline

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    Posted On:
    2/08/2008 8:41am

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    I've been following Marko Vesses' story as a passive observer for some time, and at the risk of sounding like someone who is living vicariously through his achievements , i'd like to say something in his defense. Far from being a practitioner of Bullshido, Marko would have to be the most lethal fighters alive in the world today. ( if this post comes to your attention Mr V, please forgive such a gratuitous description , but that IS it in a nutshell ) . Many sceptics have arrived on Marko's doorstep over the years, including Maori Bikie gangs , heavyweight pro-boxers, car loads of headkickers (out to test his claims in no uncertain fashion ) and martial arts practitioners of every description. He has left none of them in any doubt of his fighting prowess. All of this and a sincere bloke to boot. No download can do justice to what I've seen with my own eyes, so I suggest if any of you people in cyber land have nagging suspicions about the veracity of his site, do yourself a favour and pay the man a personal visit
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    Posted On:
    2/08/2008 9:11am


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    Quote Originally Posted by curls69
    I've been following Marko Vesses' story as a passive observer for some time, and at the risk of sounding like someone who is living vicariously through his achievements , i'd like to say something in his defense. Far from being a practitioner of Bullshido, Marko would have to be the most lethal fighters alive in the world today. ( if this post comes to your attention Mr V, please forgive such a gratuitous description , but that IS it in a nutshell ) . Many sceptics have arrived on Marko's doorstep over the years, including Maori Bikie gangs , heavyweight pro-boxers, car loads of headkickers (out to test his claims in no uncertain fashion ) and martial arts practitioners of every description. He has left none of them in any doubt of his fighting prowess. All of this and a sincere bloke to boot. No download can do justice to what I've seen with my own eyes, so I suggest if any of you people in cyber land have nagging suspicions about the veracity of his site, do yourself a favour and pay the man a personal visit
    See, this is called anecdotal evidence. It's what we don't need. If you would, please explain how this style could be 300 years in the making when it is a recent offshoot of this other system. Futhermore, how can he claim the 300 years when it's also an unapproved offshoot?
  8. Ronin.74 is offline

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    Posted On:
    2/08/2008 10:33am


     Style: CMA,Muay Thai ,Yudo,TKD

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    I am going through his youtube vids now. I haven't gotten through all of them but I will say the following for the moment, 1. The guys hand speed in his demos is very fast. 2. The below vid is a piece of ****.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm6D5Y0FXDM

    Edit: Ok I've watched them all. Nothing I haven't seen demoed a hundred times before. Nothing impressive outside of his hand speed, but it is mush easier to execute those kinds of speed techniques against a partner than it is against an attacker.

    Until we see video of him actually fighting or sparring full contact against someone who is not actually one of his students we have no reason to believe anything Curls69 has to say about him.
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    2/08/2008 10:48am


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    I think the invisible master is behind the guy in the vid, shaking his head...

    Has anyone sparred with anyone absurdly good at any TMA?
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgar42Ox
    Has anyone sparred with anyone absurdly good at any TMA?
    Yes I have.
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