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  1. PasleyPMT is offline

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    10/15/2007 7:31pm


     Style: Muay Thai

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!

    Is this how kids are supposed to train?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3thg7lrzneo

    You'll notice that the instructor demands an audible "AYAH!" from one of his loyal students and that in a couple of the sparring matches the kids had, perhaps, a 12" hight difference.

    I don't know if this is how younger people generally start learning a martial art, but if it is then I made out lucky!

    From the same "school":
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uky1A50ejC8

    What is this? A lot of the "dynamic kicks" seem to just be Tae kwon do kicks. If you read the comments it's like they sewed praising comments to cheer themselves up.
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    Posted On:
    10/15/2007 7:58pm

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    I love how they teach these kids to hit light on the heavy bag as well. Also you'll notice the combos they work are are completely absent in their point sparring.
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    Posted On:
    10/15/2007 8:30pm


     Style: Tae Kwon Do, MMA

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    We actually do alot of that with the younger kids in class. Mainly focus or target hitting but not how there doing.

    Ours is more boxing than anything else. Typicle jab, reverse, jab, uppercut and kick. Im sure get the ideal. However we do it to just to build basic eye hand coordination with a little sweat and stamina. More of a life lesson with good cardio. lol. Only after they acheive Green Belt do they participate in contact sparring, and even then it is limited by age.

    And no, we are not a Mcdojo with 10 year old black belts. They must 16 years of age minimum to test, with a another minimum of four years in training under the Se Jong TKD system. And no, not to keep fees coming in, because we have no fees, its free.

    Bottom line to me is at least there doing something other than video games or smoking dope. Peace

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    Posted On:
    10/15/2007 8:33pm

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     Style: Kaju, BJJ, Judo, Kempo

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    They had me until the point sparring. Much better than a lot of what I've seen and experienced though. At least they keep their hands up.
    Knowing is not enough, you must apply...
    ...Willing is not enough you must do
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    Posted On:
    10/15/2007 8:38pm


     Style: Taijutsu/Grappling

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    that seems like a very disciplined dojo, i used to take kempo because it was a required class for 4 straight weeks in my old private/christian school, apparently one of our ministers was a 2nd degree BB in Kempo and BB in TKD, so he taught us some in gym class... it basically sucked because they babied us and didnt want us getting hurt.
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    Posted On:
    10/15/2007 8:58pm


     Style: Muay Thai

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    The only kids' class at my gym is a Judo class, and from what I can tell they are all serious about what they're doing (as serious as an 8 year old can be) and they work very hard.

    Along with some fun games to keep the kids interested the Kids' Judo class is pretty good from my point of view.
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    Posted On:
    10/15/2007 9:01pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by KempoFist
    They had me until the point sparring. Much better than a lot of what I've seen and experienced though. At least they keep their hands up.

    Yeah, me too. Until they started actually sparring I wondered what the fuss was about. Jesus, they can't even keep they're hands up during live training.
    Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
    and remember what peace there may be in silence.
    As far as possible, without surrender,
    be on good terms with all persons.
    Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
    and listen to others,
    even to the dull and ignorant;
    they too have their story.

    -excerpt of the poem called "Desiderata," by Max Ehrman, 1927.
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    Posted On:
    10/15/2007 9:44pm

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     Style: Kaju, BJJ, Judo, Kempo

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    They also lost me with the cheesy 80's inspired montage music selection :)
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    10/15/2007 9:46pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by KempoFist
    They also lost me with the cheesy 80's inspired montage music selection :)

    I had it on silent. Thankfully. The last thing I need is any of that in my head. It took me two hours to get some Ricky Martin tune out of my head today at work....don't ask.
    Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
    and remember what peace there may be in silence.
    As far as possible, without surrender,
    be on good terms with all persons.
    Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
    and listen to others,
    even to the dull and ignorant;
    they too have their story.

    -excerpt of the poem called "Desiderata," by Max Ehrman, 1927.
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    Posted On:
    10/15/2007 9:54pm


     Style: TMA, MMA

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    I really don't have a problem with "point sparring" for the kids. As long as it is understood that point sparring has no SD value whatsoever. Point sparring is for fun. I used to do it, with the complete understanding that it was for fun, nothing more. The alternative is to focus on training your judges for light contact matches for the kids, and that takes time, money, and resources that a lot of areas can't afford to waste, on top of the laws involved in holding "prize fights".

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