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    Pop goes your lung

    Right, so I'm up in this class trying to get my learn on so I don't become completely fucking useless, but I'm falling asleep because motherfuckers are boring and ****. Suddenly I hear the high level medical student/emergency medicine technician who is giving the lecture say something that hit me like a spinning baseball bat to the skull. Somewhere in between discussing decompressing a tension pneumothorax and collision physics I hear:

    "You see, there's actually a martial arts move where you can wait until someone takes a breath in and then hit them with a blow. The effect will be similar to inflating a balloon and then hitting it. One they're hit, the lung will blow out and they'll be able to do nothing except pray for someone to take them to the hospital".

    I stood slack jawed in disbelief for a few milliseconds before standing up and uttering "Excuse me sir, but what the ****?".

    Well, of course I didn't fucking do that, but WTF bells were going off all over the place.

    Then I pondered it, and realized that in a few months this dude was going to be a bona fide Doctor with a degree and ****, with substancial understanding of anatomy/physiology/kinematics, so I figure the idea might not be 100% riddic.

    So I'm asking, is it possible that someone can have their lung go "Pop Pop" from getting punched in the chest? Has anyone ever heard of or seen this happen?
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  2. Holy Moment is online now
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    Posted On:
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    So I'm asking, is it possible that someone can have their lung go "Pop Pop" from getting punched in the chest? Has anyone ever heard of or seen this happen?
    What, you mean like a punctured lung?
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    Ask him if he knows what ribs are.

    The worst that could happen is that a really hard punch may break a rib which might puncture the lung, but even when that happens you dont POP like Pringles.

    However i heard a rumour, if you punch a person a bit above the solar, right in the heart, while the heart is contracting or expanding, it makes their head go



    Is that true ?
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    HT Yes, sort of. If there is significant impact to the heart at a very significant moment, i believe it is a moment during the t wave, you can cause cardiac arrest. It is very rare but it has happened. The most prominent case was a a few years ago when a little leaguer got hit in the chest with a pitch and died instantly, but that **** is soooo rare. As for heads exploding....sorry, wish it were true b/c then i would be in my basement studying teh deadly pitch.
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    Posted On:
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    It kinda just sounds like he was talking about knocking the wind out of somebody... but that's hardly special.
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    Posted On:
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    Just sounds like a winding.

    But I'm not a physio...
    Last edited by JingMerchant!; 2/22/2009 9:26pm at . Reason: Placed what I originally posted in the correct thread.
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    Posted On:
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    Well, after some hunting around, it looks like it is possible but very rare and only moderately nasty. Apparently punctures due to broken ribs are much more common. So I definetely wouldn't buy the "ancient martial arts move" part.

    http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/pic...2&blobtype=pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by sasquatch989 View Post
    HT Yes, sort of. If there is significant impact to the heart at a very significant moment, i believe it is a moment during the t wave, you can cause cardiac arrest. It is very rare but it has happened. The most prominent case was a a few years ago when a little leaguer got hit in the chest with a pitch and died instantly, but that **** is soooo rare. As for heads exploding....sorry, wish it were true b/c then i would be in my basement studying teh deadly pitch.
    I believe that this is known as commotio cordis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sporticus View Post
    I believe that this is known as commotio cordis
    This happened to a young guy at a karate point sparring tournament I competed in when I was a teenager. Poor guy took a punch to the chest, fell down, and died shortly thereafter.

    It was fairly traumatic, with his mother freaking out and his opponent (also a classmate of his) sobbing over in the corner.

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    Is your mouth/nose cemented shut or something? What's keeping the air from exiting?
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