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  1. Phoenix is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnaTrocity
    No ****. plus i'd imagine the weight would lend to increased controllability.

    Ultimately the 18 is an OH MY FUCKING **** weapon and if you're in an OH MY FUCKING **** situation then you want an assload of bullets.
    True dat.

    I've never had an opportunity to fire the Glock 18 with that type of mag, but I don't know if the weight of the magazine would decrease the muzzle rise that much during firing - especially with the ammunition depleting that quickly. It'd be interesting to try out, though.

    But if beggars could be choosers in a pinch, I'd still take an M4 with the Beta C.

    Ammo and firepower are like penis size - you can always have too little, but you can never have enough.
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    From a physics standpoint, the muzzle rise would only be affected slightly, because of W=Fd (fulcrum= hand, W= torque, F from weight, dx being small). Any real benefit in rise reduction would probably just come from the fact that you're holding it that much more firmly due to the added weight.

    On the other hand, it could help on a rifle, as dx would increase.
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    On another note, this is awesome: https://www.pagerpal.com/wallet.asp

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    You: "Sure. Lots of bills." *laugh your ass off*
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    I don't see why you wouldn't just get a SMG if you needed something like that, I mean yes way more bullets than a standard pistol but the longer barrel and tighter spiral from say an MP5 would more efficent I think. Still a cool Glock

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ameanman
    I don't see why you wouldn't just get a SMG if you needed something like that, I mean yes way more bullets than a standard pistol but the longer barrel and tighter spiral from say an MP5 would more efficent I think. Still a cool Glock

    (joined in July and I have 6 posts lol)
    I believe the point was: "Just because we can."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ameanman
    I don't see why you wouldn't just get a SMG if you needed something like that, I mean yes way more bullets than a standard pistol but the longer barrel and tighter spiral from say an MP5 would more efficent I think. Still a cool Glock

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    Obviously, you're correct. An H&K MP5 or an FN P90 trumps the Glock 18 by a longshot.

    There are certain types of work (such as CPP or bodyguard work, for example) that, at times, may require a firearm such as the Glock 18, because it still has a high rate of fire like an SMG, but is much more low profile and can be concealed easier.

    Of course the Beta C magazine is useless for that type of purpose, but the Glock 18 does have 30 round magazines available, for military and law enforcment units.
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    But this BetaC mag makes sense if you want your Glock18c to spit bullets longer then... like one and a half seconds.
    (about twenty rounds per second is the ROF of this beast, aye?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ysc87
    On another note, this is awesome: https://www.pagerpal.com/wallet.asp

    Mugger: "Gimme your wallet. God, what a fat wallet; I can see it from a mile away- you must have a crapload of bills in there."

    You: "Sure. Lots of bills." *laugh your ass off*
    I might actually get that. That's a Kel-Tec, either a PF-9 or P-11. They're the thinnest 9MM you can buy so they wouldn't be that thick compared to someone who usually carries a lot of crap in their wallet.

    Nice.

    Edit: hurr, would help if I read the description... it's a P-3AT. What I get for posting while my stupid work computer lags its way to a new window.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmilinBandit
    (about twenty rounds per second is the ROF of this beast, aye?)
    You're correct. Of course, this depends on the ammunition used....generally the ROF on the Glock 18 ranges from 1100 - 1300 rounds per minute. So yeah...on average, you're looking at about 20 rounds per second.

    I forgot to mention also, in my last post, that this kind of pistol is also ideal for some tactical units because it's easier to use in tight quarters than an SMG.

    But since a pistol is generally used as a secondary firearm by tactical units, it'd likely be used in extreme circumstances (ie. primary weapon jams/fails).
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    @Phoenix:

    Aye you´re right, a small and maneuverable backup firearm that can put five or six rounds into a target with one short pull of the trigger would definitely be a good thing to have in very tight quarters.
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