Thread: Chin Na vids page
10/09/2007 3:27pm, #31
Originally Posted by ViciousFlamingo
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10/09/2007 3:30pm, #32Originally Posted by ViciousFlamingo
10/09/2007 3:31pm, #33Originally Posted by Shadow Warrior
And if validation/criticism of what you're learning(?) is what you wanted, notice how you did not ask anything that could possibly have been interpreted as "What do people think of these videos, thumbs up or thumbs down?". You simply posted them and said (and I'm paraphrasing here) "These look good."
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10/09/2007 3:32pm, #34Originally Posted by Shadow Warrior
this is what i see: two fat guys playing push hands or something.
the attack isnt real, the defense isnt real, the guy KEEPS breaking off his moves to chat to the students, this means he's insecure or doesnt have a proper lessonplan.
nowhere in the video you see the technique fully and at proper speed so you tell me what you've learned by watching the video you just posted on here.
technical things: the guy leans back and overstretches his back way to much, if you wanna hang that much backwards why dont you just deliver a lowkick in his nuts/inside legs etc?
why rub his wrists?
Then the dood swings in with some bs punch, ok fair enough, the other guy blocks it in a way thats even flawed in traditional kung fu, i myself have a choy lee fut background and i was taught that with that block you turn in your arm more towards that arm.
still a bs block though.
There is no guard, no proper footwork, movements are slow and stiff and the guy who is defending isnt concentrating on his art, he's more into bragging **** to the students.
10/09/2007 3:33pm, #35Originally Posted by Shadow Warrior
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10/09/2007 3:33pm, #37
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10/09/2007 3:34pm, #38Originally Posted by Shadow Warrior
Notice how the big guy just stops his attack when the instructor wants the attack to stop. That doesn't happen. Ever. An attacker will continue his forward momentum. So the defender, whose technique relies upon the opponent being in a fixed position, would become fuddled by the fact that his attacker will not assume that position.
Look at how long it takes between the point the attacker freezes and the point where the defender has an actual, solid grip on his arm. Even sped up to full speed, it's ridiculous to assume the attacker wouldn't be able to retract his arm before the lock is set in.
And that doesn't even account for the rest of the attacker's body, which this demonstration assumes would simply remain in whatever position the defender places it.
10/09/2007 3:36pm, #39
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Didn't read the whole thread, but my comments on the videos:
1) People do not leave their arms out to be grabbed/broken in a real fight. You are either going to get punched repeatedly in the face, or get grabbed trying to attempt standing arm breaks like that.
2) The only joint locks/breaks that can be trained to a point of being reliable, are ones where you control your opponent, and control the break from the beginning to the end with little chance of your opponent countering. If both your opponents feet are on the floor, you are NOT in control.Knowing is not enough, you must apply...
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10/09/2007 3:37pm, #40
2 more mayor things: somehwere halfway he pushes the big guys hips....he goes what? half a foot backwards?
wow..thats really important...wait...the defender was still in his reach...he didnt have any guard up to protect himself...guess not sucha smart move after all.
point 2: towards the end, he misses the cross/overhook punch of the attacker cos he wasnt paying attention.
THEN he sort off stops the technique,positions himself to the other side of his right arm and does the wrist plus elbow 'take down'.
this works in fantasyland my friend.