Questions about no-gi closed guard:

**actionfaad** · Posted On: 10/07/2007 6:40pm

Hello, I have a few questions I was hoping to get help with.

I have trouble when trying to break someone down in my gaurd while attempting to get to mission control. The trouble is that usually when I trap the head close to me and sit back, I can get them to lower for a second, but my opponent, especially those who are less experienced, will try to posture up even with my clinch firmly secured.

Basically what ends up happening is they're sitting completely upright with my body latched onto them, trying to unhook my legs from their back in order to run them over and attain the mount. Of course, when I try this, they stand up with me and I seem to have nothing again.

My question is, when someone postures up completely and I'm like a little monkey hanging off their neck, what is the answer to that? I never learned it and nowadays I can't get into the gym because I'm in the military.

My next topic is, when I get mission control, get the hand to the mat, and try for the gogoplata, I can get my shin across my opponent's throat, but they posture up and away and manage to withstand the pressure and oftentimes pull their arm completely out. How can I keep them controlled and make sure that they don't pull that arm out?

**GoldenJonas** · Posted On: 10/07/2007 7:24pm

Wow.....just wow; and not in a good way.

How long have you been training/rolling?

This thread is on a fast track to Gitmo.....

**ONE TWO THREE FOUR FIVE** · Posted On: 10/07/2007 7:27pm

Are you describing someone basically sit-up sweeping them self?

**GoldenJonas** · Posted On: 10/07/2007 7:36pm

I think he's talking about the often overlooked Koala-Bear submission and his inability to let go of his "bear hug of death" when someone tries to posture in his guard.

There are really so many different transitions you can do from the position he is describing that I would have no idea where to start; and all of it is BJJ 101 stuff.

OP - Train more, post less

**actionfaad** · Posted On: 10/07/2007 9:18pm

Originally Posted by GoldenJonas

I think he's talking about the often overlooked Koala-Bear submission and his inability to let go of his "bear hug of death" when someone tries to posture in his guard.

There are really so many different transitions you can do from the position he is describing that I would have no idea where to start; and all of it is BJJ 101 stuff.

OP - Train more, post less

Yeah thanks you've helped a shitload. I know the hip bump sweep but that's not what I want. I want to break him down so that I can test out my rubber gaurd technique and start really working it against an opponent that I'm not at all framiliar with, a heavy one at that.

Also I'm really bad at hip bump sweep. It's insanely hard against heavier people.

What is it with this forum as far as not humoring my simpler questions? So what if I'm asking about something basic? All I wanted is a high percentage technique to use from when I'm latched around someone's neck with a closed gaurd and they are strong enough to posture straight up. The reason I wouldn't take this to guantanamo is because there's nobody intelligent in guantanamo to answer my questions. How many of you can honestly say that you regularly visit guantanamo bay just to help the noobs?

**Wolf** · Posted On: 10/07/2007 9:49pm

Ok, her's what I was taught...
1) When they posture up first pull their arms off your body if they're using those to hold posture.
2) Pull forward on their arms/wrists and simultaneously use your legs to lift up and pull forward. If they have a good base just pulling forward with your legs won't work. The lifting motion while you pull forward helps to break their balance.
3) As they're coming down come up and get head/neck control.
4) Since you want rubber guard it's especially important that you get your guard up high as soon as you break their posture so they don't sit back up.
5) Work whatever kind of guard you want.

That's my solution. If someone has something better or finds a problem with what I said please feel free to tell me I'm dumb.

***jnp*** · Posted On: 10/07/2007 9:55pm

Originally Posted by actionfaad

What is it with this forum as far as not humoring my simpler questions? So what if I'm asking about something basic?

Bottom line is, this forum is not for basic questions. It's for more detailed questions. Guantanamo Bay is for basic questions.

Oh and by the way, it's spelled guard, not gaurd.

**actionfaad** · Posted On: 10/08/2007 12:02am

Originally Posted by Wolf

Ok, her's what I was taught...
1) When they posture up first pull their arms off your body if they're using those to hold posture.
2) Pull forward on their arms/wrists and simultaneously use your legs to lift up and pull forward. If they have a good base just pulling forward with your legs won't work. The lifting motion while you pull forward helps to break their balance.
3) As they're coming down come up and get head/neck control.
4) Since you want rubber guard it's especially important that you get your guard up high as soon as you break their posture so they don't sit back up.
5) Work whatever kind of guard you want.

That's my solution. If someone has something better or finds a problem with what I said please feel free to tell me I'm dumb.

Thank you. Can anyone help me with my other question?

**Kintanon** · Posted On: 10/08/2007 12:25am

Uh yeah, put both hands on the back of your opponents head and pull down as you push your shin up.

**Qtip inspector** · Posted On: 10/08/2007 2:49am

try nhbgear.com, sherdog or the grappling section of mma.tv. this place is cliqueish and not newbie friendly. also, if you have ?'s about breaking posture, drop the rubber guard for a few months.