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    A Newblet question on Hooks and Elbows

    Howdy fellas and fellettes. I've registered just to ask you guys this (I figure since this site is dedicated to what works and not bullcrap, I can expect a thoroughly thought out and practical answer).

    Essentially, I'm wondering when elbows completely take over hooks. I was taught hooks have the elbow bent at essentially a 80 degree angle, then you pivot the body, magic happens, etc. Now, there are also elbows that move in a horizontal path. They essentially have the exact same reach, and for me atleast, have more power in addition to being a harder striking surface. It would also seem like, due to pulling the forearm and fist in towards your body, it would make the elbow travel faster than a hook would.

    My question is this; if you can throw a proper elbow, does it make the hook useless by comparison?

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    Welcome to Bullshido, the best Martial Arts forum on the entire Internet, MrBadGuy. Seriously, you won't regret your choice to join us. We're a great bunch of folks, except for Hannibal. And Sirc. And TaiGip. And MMA Kid. And... well, you get the point.

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    I would like to say that this is a very good question. (no sarcasm) And I look forward to seeing other chime in.

    For me,I would elbow in close range if I were looking to follow up with a clinch. In Muay Thai the hooks tend to be a little further out than in boxing. Because of the ruleset/design of boxing, the hooks tend to be tighter. In MT you can use a long hook as a setup to a kick. I don't know if that helps at all.

    Since the elbow is a pretty hard bone centered o na pretty small part, it probably would hurt alot more. I haven't sat there to take the elbow vs hook test. Hopefully I won't ever have to.

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    I think if distance is not an issue, I'd go w/ an elbow over a hook any chance I get since in my experience they can deliver more damage, and they are harder to stop.

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    That's exactly what I was thinking. Out of all of boxing, for me atleast, the hook was the most suspect to being replaced with an elbow if I were to be in a confrontation.

    After thinking about it further, maybe a hook is more difficult to block than an elbow? Due to the fact the horizontal elbow is essentially a straight line from the shoulder, one could block it with a vertical elbow, making a perpendicular meeting of elbows. A hook, on the other hand, protrudes out, meaning you would have to take a pre-emptive measure against the fist itself. I guess.

    Then again, you could just bend your hand towards your shoulder, and use that to help stop the hook. I don't know if that could be applied toward the elbow as well.

    Is it as easy to combo out of an elbow as it is a hook? I.e., is the transition difficulty to other punches/kicks the same?

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