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  1. Ronin is offline

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    Anderson was one strong Mofu !!!
    And all that without steroids.
    As for your comment about "half ass" charts.
    I don't see how something that motivates us is bad.
    What did you find so "wrong" about a chart taht basis its goal on bodyweight?
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    Matt :

    Working in the 3-5 Rep Range is going to give you SIGNIFIGANTLY more Gains in Strength than working in Higher Rep Ranges . By this I mean a weight that you CAN lift 3 Times , but you CANT Lift 6 .

    This Calls Into Recruitment the Nervous Pathways at their Peak , and Expands them through Training . Lower Weights do NOT do this . You should be woirking at 85-95% of your One Rep Max in this Rep Range .

    Chinps have FAR less Muscular Tissues than any Human , but do you know how you are always hearing about how they will Rip your Arm off you and Beat you with it ? Thats because their Nervous Pathways are a Cablemodem to our 28kbps . the better the Connection/DLSpeed , the Stronger you are

    GO BROADBAND !

    Not ONLY does it give you better Results , but you waste FAR less Time in Each Lifting Session .
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    Indeed, 100 % in agreement on that one.
    Altough there are some the preach the higher rep scheme for legs.
    The 20 rep squat is murder, that is for sure.
    Rule of thumb:
    6-8 for upper body, 12 to 15 lower.
    That of course does NOT mean if you make better gains with lower reps for legs that you should do higher.
    It is. like most advice on strength training, a starting point.
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    Originally posted by ronin69
    Anderson was one strong Mofu !!!
    And all that without steroids.
    As for your comment about "half ass" charts.
    I don't see how something that motivates us is bad.
    What did you find so "wrong" about a chart taht basis its goal on bodyweight?
    Dude , I wasnt really Jumping up YOUR Skirt about YOUR PARTICULAR Charts , I just HATE them , as they nearly NEVER Correspond to Reality , nor to the best way to Train .

    I mean , just looking at the things you Copied there on Reps/Weights ... it LOOKS LIKE its saying that you should work out at 6+ and 12+ Reps per Excerise , and that does NOTHING to bring in Nervous System Recruitment .

    Add that to the fact that EVERY "Size Chart" that I have EVER SEEN in my Lifetime tells me that at my height the MOST I should weigh is 250 lbs , or IM OBESE . It takes nothign else into Consideration . Charts are almost Universally Inherently Flawed when talking about Strength , and Fitness .
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    Originally posted by ronin69
    Indeed, 100 % in agreement on that one.
    Altough there are some the preach the higher rep scheme for legs.
    The 20 rep squat is murder, that is for sure.
    Rule of thumb:
    6-8 for upper body, 12 to 15 lower.
    That of course does NOT mean if you make better gains with lower reps for legs that you should do higher.
    It is. like most advice on strength training, a starting point.
    I want to say it AGAIN :

    Youre not REALLY TRIGGERING any Growth in your Nervous System , which Produces the MOST Strength gains without adding ANY Mass whatsoever , until you get down to the 3-5Rep Range .

    6+ just isnt going to trigger it .
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    And how many sets are you recommending?
    Rest between sets?
    Exercises per body part?
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    Originally posted by ronin69
    And how many sets are you recommending?
    Rest between sets?
    Exercises per body part?

    Sets Per Excercise are Variable , mostly depending on Wether its a Simple or Compound Lift , and wether its a Muscle (Or HEAD of a Muscle) that is Heavily Recruited by otner Lifts .

    USUALLY , on an Excercise , most cant get it up for more than Three sets , Ive NEVER seen anyone doing 3-5 Rep sets that could go more tthan 5 Sets at their Starting Weight , if Properly Set . Now , I , Myself , drop the Weight , and Go right back at it , right down till I can barely Lift my Arms (for Example) . This , of course , is more Advanced , and must be gagued by wether or not you have anythign Physical to do in the next few days .

    Rest between Sets MAY Take up to 5 min at first , but equalises down to 2-3min per set . More time is needed for your Nervous System to "Reboot" . I use this time to do another Muscle , but Chatting Up the hottest Chica in the Gym is also Acceptable .

    Excercises per Bodypart , again MUST be judged by the Bodypart . I have a whole GAGGLE of Shoulder Excersises that I do , due to the nature of the Muscle , and my Training Purposes , but not NEARLY as many Hamstring excercises . Working the Muscle FULLY , and in the Full Range of Motion is of Utmost Import .

    Leg Day is my Religeon , and the End of it is my Hell .
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    Cool,
    Interesting workout.
    I like to work my UP to my max working weight ( not my MAX), usually 2-3 sets, smack the "work set" to failure, drop 20% ( more or less) and , no rest, pump out as many reps As I can.
    Works really well, for me.
    Ususally 2 exercise per body part at the most, both compound movements, I only do 1 exercise for biceps and triceps and forarms.
    I Love squats, deadlifts, weighted chins and dips :)
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