Thread: Guards in MMA, not as effective?
10/03/2007 8:22pm, #1
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Guards in MMA, not as effective?
In plain BJJ, we have the heirarchy of positions, with them centered around the guard position, which is like the base attacking position. If you're in someone's guard, conventional wisdom is you shouldn't attack until once you pass that person's guard.
But whenever I watch an MMA match, a person in someone's guard can punch, elbow, and rain down a crap load of punishment, while the other guy holding someone in the guard is frequently more defensive, and only rarely attacking from there.
Does this mean most MMA fighters aren't good guard fighters, or is the guard itself, weaker in MMA than plain old BJJ? Would like y'alls thoughts.
10/03/2007 8:40pm, #2
your guard has to be better in MMA. Guys with good guards in MMA are especially good at using the guard to control the hips of their opponent to take away power in the strikes.
10/03/2007 8:49pm, #3
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10/04/2007 4:42am, #8
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In MMA you have to attack constantly, you can't afford to rest as maintaining grips is not as easy. Once you grip the gi it takes a lot to remove those grips, whereas holding the wrists is easy to break and even under or overhooks can be slipped out of if you just try to hold on and don't attack.
Breaking and controlling posture is even more important in MMA. In a BJJ match, even if your opponent postures they still have to work to open your guard. However, with MMA as soon as they are postured they have a good position to strike from.
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