UFC 77: Hostile Territory - 10/20/2007 7pm PT/10pm ET

**PunchyMcFace** · Posted On: 10/03/2007 9:53am

The fights are up: http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=Even...htCard&eid=871

Franklin v Silva

Sylvia v Vera

Shafer v Bonnar

Belcher v Starnes

Undercard:

J. Macdonald v Okami

Alvin Robinson Vs. Gurgel

Burkman Vs. Petz

Grice Vs. Black

Anyone know why Grice is listed as 9-0-0 when he lost to Terry Etim? Or at what weight class Belcher and Starnes will fight?

**pauli** · Posted On: 10/03/2007 12:19pm

also Demian Maia vs. Ryan Jensen.

Anyone know why Grice is listed as 9-0-0 when he lost to Terry Etim?

because ufc.com is always hilariously out of date.

**PizDoff** · Posted On: 10/03/2007 12:27pm

Is it Oct already?!
They actually note Grice's loss if you click his profile.

I like the weight difference between Alan Belcher Vs. Kalib Starnes.
Thread title edited.

**Wolf** · Posted On: 10/03/2007 1:07pm

I would imagine middleweight.

Here's what I listed as my picks on MMAPlayground:

Silva v. Franklin: Silva. I THINK he's got Franklin's number, and he trains at a fantastic academy. However, I'm not 100% on this one.

Belcher v. Starnes: Starnes. His submission game is too good for belcher. round 2 sub.

Schafer v. Bonnar: Bonnar. I think we'll see this fight spend a significant amount of time on the ground with Bonnar grinding out a decision.

Grice v. Black: Grice. As good as black might have been, I think he's done. Grice by KO/TKO rd. 2.

Okami v. MacDonald: Okami. I see Okami doing to that little bitch J-Mack what Franklin did. Take down, mount, GnP for a TKO in Rd 2.

Gurgel v. Robinson: Gurgel. Two great grapplers putting on a BJJ clinic. Gurgel by decision.

Burkman v. Petz: Burkman. He's gonna come out fast and hard ending Petz's night early. Rd 1 KO.

Vera v. Sylvia: Vera. I think the Sylvia is finally ripe for another submission loss and Vera's the guy to do it. Rd 2 sub.

Maia v. Jensen: Jensen. Another pair of grapplers. I give Jensen the edge in UFC experience. So a decision win for him.

**pumpkinhead** · Posted On: 10/03/2007 4:26pm

Originally Posted by PizDoff

Is it Oct already?!
I like the weight difference between Alan Belcher Vs. Kalib Starnes.
Thread title edited.

Arn't they both middle weights?

**Roidie McDouchebag** · Posted On: 10/03/2007 4:58pm

Franklin v Silva by TKO

Sylvia v Vera by TKO

Shafer v Bonnar (I would like to see Stephan Bonnar have a heart attack or something that just makes him completely unable to fight in any promotion ever again, don't give a **** about Shafer)

Belcher v Starnes by Sub

J. Macdonald by Sub v Okami

Burkman Vs. Petz (Burkman is just above Bonnar on my **** list, as long as he loses, I'm happy)

**UpaLumpa** · Posted On: 10/03/2007 5:05pm

Macdonald over Okami?
Interesting choice.

Is Black fighting at 155 again? That was a bad cut during his last UFC.

**Vince Tortelli** · Posted On: 10/03/2007 5:08pm

I am going with Ace on this one, because so far this has been the year of WTF!!!?? in MMA and Rich Franklin beating Silva in the rematch would be that.
And I pick Big Tim over Brandon Vera, Tim's submission defense is very good and I don't think Vera can strike with him. Here's hoping Tim pulls out that high kick that turned Tra Telligman power off.

**meataxe** · Posted On: 10/03/2007 6:49pm

I need some way to cut and paste my picks from mmaplayground.:icon_cycl

**Fighting Cephalopod** · Posted On: 10/03/2007 7:05pm

Originally Posted by PunchyMcFace

Franklin v Silva

I picked Franklin via TKO or decision last time, because I expected him to take Silva down rather than try to force the clinch with the best Muay Thai guy at 185. Apparently assuming that Franklin was at least as smart as Chris Leben was giving him too much credit, but I'm guessing his handlers will have beaten this into his head and made him watch Silva/Lutter about 50 times, so I'm going to take the underdog pick of Franklin by Decision this time.

Sylvia v Vera

I think Vera is going to turn Sylvia's legs into raw meat; the only question I have is how Vera's untested chin is going to hold up if Sylvia manages to throw a counter right hand off of them a couple times. Nevertheless, Vera by TKO.

Shafer v Bonnar

Bonnar by submission, unless Schafer's improved a fuckload since the Bisping fight.

Belcher v Starnes

Starnes by sub or TKO.

Undercard:

J. Macdonald v Okami

Okami by domination, although I expect MacDonald will look a lot better than people expect him to.

Alvin Robinson Vs. Gurgel

Gurgel via forgetting he knows BJJ and swinging for the fences, like usual

Burkman Vs. Petz

Burkman will probably win, but I'm going to pick Petz anyway because I hate Burkman and any excuse to root against him is a good one as far as I'm concerned.