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  1. Virus is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by AikiZenDragon
    it is called nikkyo in aikido and is very effective especially if applied very hard...
    If it's so effective why aren't BJJ comps won with that as soon as the opponent takes a lapel grip instead of wasting all that time on the ground?
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    Being an effective submission once you have it locked in, and being easy or even possible to setup and apply are two different things. I know my instructor(bjj) can setup many techniques that I just can't at my current skill level. That does not mean they are impractical, it just means I need to practice them more.

    This wrist lock will submit someone if you can set it up. I've done it to white belts in bjj. However setting it up is very hard to do and very situational. I am kind of known for being a fan of weird gimics like wrist locks in my bjj club. I have found a few very effective and easy to setup wrist locks, and a ton of very hard if not impossible to setup wrist locks that are just as effective. It does not stop me from going for them though when I want to have fun.

    The hardest part about setting up a standing wrist lock (vs a wrist lock on a guy on the ground which is much much easier) is just like throwing a person you must take their balance first. If I stand there, give you my arm and you try to wrist lock me, it is going to be very hard if possible at all. You have to get as the judo guys call it "Kuzushi". This why I find standing wrist locks to be so hard to use. You have to take a persons balance while still maintaining the position needed to submit them. It's much easier to just punch them in the face or throw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AikiZenDragon
    it is called nikkyo in aikido and is very effective especially if applied very hard... however your application is poor... notice YOUR pinkie fingers... this is not a tea party... use those fingers for gripping and to prevent your opponent from grabbing them... also consider compressing the wrist that is kind of like pressing your hands toward each other as you twist your right hand forward towards your opponent and your left hand backward towards your body... can also be used to set up other techniques... especially if the opponent tries to yank his arm out of your grasp... good technique
    again....

    1. NOT ME in that picture, its an example of what I was doing. I didn't have time to set up the porno tri pod to show you what I was doing while he was in my guard...

    2. Its NOT a high percentage move, it takes BOTH of your hands to do it, and is easily hand faught.

    3. There is nothing wrong with tea party's.... just ask Sushi. Thats his go to move for dates.
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    I can tell from my own experience that people trying to bend and twist my fingers and toes when I have backmount, often get choked out.
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    10/10/2007 5:38pm


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    why would you attempt that when someone has your back? thats retarded.
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    Does the Ear Twist count as "small joint manipulation"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by meataxe
    Does the Ear Twist count as "small joint manipulation"?
    I don't think so. Sometimes things like ear pulling, clavicle pulling, etc get grouped in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meataxe
    Does the Ear Twist count as "small joint manipulation"?
    Unless you have JOINTS in your ear, no.
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    10/11/2007 6:41am


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    My ears crackle when I move them, are those joints?
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    There are three bones in the middle ear: hammer, anvil and stirrup. I don't think they are technically joined though and you'd have trouble manipulating them without surgical instruments.
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