Sifu Rudy Abel vs Anthony - Video Discussion thread

**Teh El Macho** · Posted On: 10/01/2007 10:09pm

Originally Posted by Osiris

Oh, I agree Asia. He stood no chance. Its that I'm actually surprised he put up a scuffle at all.

Neko and I (and I bet Anthony as well) were very surprised as well. It can be argued that he came up banging hard due to his training or just pure physical skills. But he was quite close to end it as Anthony said. If Anthony hadn't fall on the ropes, if he had fallen inside, the fight would have been over.

However, a few things to consider (from my comfortable armchair):

1. Rudy trained for the takedown. Semi-decent spraw. No way in hell that a person can pull that out without drilling this a couple of times against a resisting training partner. He managed to stop several takedowns, from a dude driving his 200lbs+ onto him. This wasn't a fluke, but the result of a deliberate choice in training a modicum of wrestling. This is what allowed him the most to put some hurt onto Anthony. How does that fit into his 25 years of KF experience? Who knows/

2. He trained for the clinch. Specifically, he trained to clinch and swing his opponent around. Was this part of his 25 years of experience? Who knows.

3. Had Rudy trained in MT roundhouse kicks (the ones he called ineffective) rather than those front kicks, he could have ended the fight right at 0:34.

4. Even though he hits hard, Rudy's punches were pretty sloppy. If he had better striking, he could have won quicker (see mark 0:57 - that's some ugly ass haymaking punching no matter how you cut it.)

Regardless, at least he showed up and can show he can put some hurt. But it's obvious he trained for MMA (or for his version of anti-MMA.) This also speaks volumes given the vast difference in the amount of years each of these two men have devoted to their training.

And **** Anthony, I have to say it as well. You lost quite a lot of weight since the last time I saw you. You look fucking solid, man!!! Good work!!!

**Teh El Macho** · Posted On: 10/01/2007 10:12pm

Originally Posted by AnnaTrocity

I saw pretty much the performance I expected. Abel looked like a scrappy cat from his old sparring videos and that's always great. But technically, dude is just as bad as I thought he'd be.

I figured anthony would win this as long as he didnt try to stand up with Abel and I figured Abel would stand a decent chance of winning if the fight stayed standing for long, afterall, he's a big dude and a big dude doesnt have tobe good to be good enough to rock or KO someone. Anthony's standup defense could use some work (and I think anthony would probably be well served by moving more to a clinch/upper body take down game because it would make it easier for anthony to keep his focus on protecting his head). I've never rolled with anthony, but clearly his ground game works just fine.

After all the **** Abel gave Anthony about his first MMA fight, all the avatars of anthony getting hit on the ground ny a trained athlete, this outcome is a beautiful thing.

it is poetic justice... karma :)

**** I'm tired. I'm going to sleep. Let's see how much this thread grows by tomorrow morning :)

**Anna Kovacs** · Posted On: 10/01/2007 10:19pm

Rudy should consider hiring me for some private lessons. Getting in and landing big hits right out of the chute is my specialty.

**MEGA JESUS-SAMA** · Posted On: 10/01/2007 10:29pm

56 posts? 56 posts and no one has made fun of Rudy's hair?

**El Neko** · Posted On: 10/01/2007 10:30pm

Man, Anthony, this was a fun day, thanks brother.

Congrats to Anthony and Rudy, they put on a nice show and at the end the best man won, Ant, I know we were giving you **** on the restaurant, but brother, you makes us proud.

Here's another angle on the same fight (El Macho had a much better angle, the ref kept posting himself between me and the fight)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-IqpinodSM

enjoy fuckers

**Pandinha** · Posted On: 10/01/2007 10:30pm

Nice, I was wondering what happened to the video.

**fes_fsa** · Posted On: 10/01/2007 10:33pm

Anthony... camera guys... good job. :)

**polishillusion** · Posted On: 10/01/2007 10:35pm

Originally Posted by MEGA JESUS-SAMA

56 posts? 56 posts and no one has made fun of Rudy's bandanna and biker motif?

Fixed that for you.

***JohnnyCache*** · Posted On: 10/01/2007 10:37pm

Anthony, man, you gotta start from the knees less :P

Seriously, though, I really had my money on "last minute excuses" so I am very pleased a match took place at all . . . he really rocked you with the monkey paw there for a second, man.

What took place between you at the end? Did he ask for you to stop or did you just tag him and give him a breather?

**Boyd** · Posted On: 10/01/2007 10:37pm

I know now is the time for uncorking the champagne and goodwill flattery friendship bracelets, enchanting and magical, forged from liquified rainbow for this, the glorious triumph of Good over evil, of Bullshido vs. That One Envision Board That Used To Be Called Truth Martial Arts But Then Just Became, Colloquially, Rudy's Board. If the JFS Fight was the Two Towers, this was our Minas Tirith, the day the world declared in one voice WE WILL NOT SLIP QUIETLY INTO THE NIGHT. This is the Mission Control scene from any Jerry Bruckheimer film where a madman screams into a headpiece "He did it! The sonuvabitch DID IT!" and confetti rains from the ceiling, and a wizened general puts his arm around the young boy whose father died on that ship, and tells him what a brave man your father was. It's when Sylvester Stallone won the World Armwrestling Championships and his child custody battle AT THE SAME TIME. It's the conclusion to every fist-pumping world-fucking 80's montage set to Simple Minds. It's an enormous cock you just have to suck. And in a mood like that, we show our best nature, our capacity to emphathize with others swells and we forgive all tresspasses for the petty frivolities they are.

So that's cool, and I respect you guys for that, but I'd like to be the first to jump on Teabagging Rudy session, reserve my spot in line if I may and point out that like two hours ago we were talking about how much of a douche Rudy is, and I for one would like to point out that the only difference is tonight Rudy is an exceptionally lumpy douche.

That said, I know Rudy's reading this and I'd like to wave to the camera, if I may, and hold up a sign, only instead of HI MOM it says 25 YEARS OF TRAINING CANNOT STUFF A GRACIE TACKLE THAT WAS FUCKING PATHETIC. then, for clarity's sake and because I understand too many sequential capitals dilutes the tone of the message, I switch to a new card that reads ANTHONY HAD BEEN TRAINING MMA FOR 10 MONTHS. 10 MONTHS. YOU ARE THE TOP OF YOUR ART AND YOU WERE BEAT BY FOUR. MONTHS. New card. DON'T TRY TO PUT A POSITIVE SPIN ON IT. DON'T DOWNPLAY THE ENORMITY OF YOUR FAILURE. THAT WASN'T EVEN A GOOD GUARD PASS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpzLlWZIiXo

YOU SEE THIS? YOU FLOPPED AWAY AND TURTLED LIKE EVERY STEREOTYPICAL KUNG FU "MASTER" IN EVERY SINGLE KUNG FU VIDEO YOU CLAIMED YOU WERE MAGICALLY DIFFERENT THAN. RUDY ABEL, YOU ARE A CLICHE.

Out of signs, I would like to be the official Badwill Ambassador here and just remind Rudy that all of his ****-talking priveldges are hereby and forevermore revoked. Please hoist yourself upon the cross here sir and we'll try to get this done as quickly as we can.