Wing Chun? hard style. Wing Tsun? softer than Aikido. Flipside? practically limp.

[Tom Kagan]

I don't recall saying anything sucked.

That's a pretty short memory you have there. Posts #266 & #273, not to mention that you just said "I certainly don't think many traditional wing chun people are good fighters."


Maybe you are talking to yourself in a foreign language? Here, let me translate your words for you: "I DON'T SUCK, KAMON DOESN'T SUCK, BUT THOSE GUYS SUCK. TRUST ME, I KNOW."

[Kamon Guy]

You clearly have a different definition of Sparring than reasonable sane people do.

Now, what is the purpose of trying to use techniques you aren't trained in when working against someone who IS trained in those techniques? Wouldn't it make a LOT more sense to use the techniques you ARE trained in to see how they work against the training of other people?

And if you believe that sparring is not for pressure testing your technique then where/when DO you pressure test your technique?

In feeding techniques, drills or bouts.

[Kintanon]

Ok, the only experience I have with "Feeding techniques" is from Aikido, they consisted of the people in the class running towards the instructor with their hand raised. It was a blast. I got to fly through the air. It was not pressure testing. I ASSUME whatever you are doing is in no way related to this. Could you perhaps direct me to a video of someone really good, doing a really good example of Feeding Techniques?
Drills are not pressure testing. Drills are for repetition to master the techniques movements. Yes there should be some resistance. But not FULL ON resistance while doing a single technique drill.
A bout should NOT be the first place you ever pressure test your technique. That's a good way to get KTFOed when it matters.

[It is Fake]

In feeding techniques, drills or bouts.

Define your meaning of each succinctly.

There is a disconnect. I'd say it could be me but, out of the people here, none of us agree with your definitions.

[Kamon Guy]

Define your meaning of each succinctly.

There is a disconnect. I'd say it could be me but, out of the people here, none of us agree with your definitions.

Feeding technique - a system by which an attacker throws any technique in randomly whilst you deal with it. Advanced stages include full resistance with whatever said opponent chooses

Drills - simulated techniques, designed to help improve positioning, stance, hand speed, footwork and power

Bouts - a contested format where two fighters will enter an agreed space and fight each other in a designated period of time

[Kung-Fu Joe]

Feeding technique - a system by which an attacker throws any technique in randomly whilst you deal with it. Advanced stages include full resistance with whatever said opponent chooses

So, the attacker throws a single attack, and then the defender defends? Or a set number of attacks in the advanced stages? Or is it unlimited? If unlimited, how is this not sparring?

Is it like Karate's ippon- and gohon-kumite?

Drills - simulated techniques, designed to help improve positioning, stance, hand speed, footwork and power

Same definition, here. Working for perfect form on the technique.

Bouts - a contested format where two fighters will enter an agreed space and fight each other in a designated period of time

This seems a lot like sparring, to me.

--Joe

[Tonuzaba]

Feeding technique - ...

P.S.
I am one of the "guys who claimed to spar but it looked like dancing". The other one was Psychomongoose.
That "dance" we did incorporated getting hit in the mouth with the fists or feet of the other if not defending properly. It's called sparring.
Something you should try one day too. :icon_thum

[Kamon Guy]

P.S.
I am one of the "guys who claimed to spar but it looked like dancing". The other one was Psychomongoose.
That "dance" we did incorporated getting hit in the mouth with the fists or feet of the other if not defending properly. It's called sparring.
Something you should try one day too. :icon_thum

If that is waht you call sparring then you need to get out more.
It was a glorified dance and is exactly the kind of stupid nonsense that exists in martial arts. People insist they are fighters and that they spar and then they post videos of themselves dancing around.

[Kintanon]

I assume that you just charge directly forward towards your opponent, flailing wildly with no regard for your own safety then? Are you Don Frye?

Staying out of range of your opponent, choosing when to engage and when not to, NOT GETTING HIT, those are all very important elements of fighting. If you just wade in swinging then someone who knows WTF they are doing is going to KO you.

[It is Fake]

If that is waht you call sparring then you need to get out more.
It was a glorified dance and is exactly the kind of stupid nonsense that exists in martial arts. People insist they are fighters and that they spar and then they post videos of themselves dancing around.

Yeah I know it isn't you but, you posted these videos. So, until you do anything different you should shut the **** up.

From here:
http://www.kamonwingchun.com/Video/F...echniquesB.avi
^^FEEDING TECHNIQUES

From here:
http://www.kamonwingchun.com/video/K...James_demo.wmv

Yet, you have nerve enough to say this garbage.

With regards to sparring - are you dumb? Please post a video of you usung wing chun to spar.

Hello Mr. Pot.