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  1. Tom Kagan is offline
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    Posted On:
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     Style: Taai Si Ji Kung Fu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamon Guy
    Yippeee!!

    The moment passed.


    You claim the foot work moves, but it's planted (flat-footed). Thus, this is why WC sucks at a primary methodology (sparring) inherently necessary to work out whether your fighting fundamentals are any good.


    Are you sure you are an advocate of the style?
    Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

    "Your calm and professional manner of response is really draining all the fun out of this. Can you reply more like Dr. Fagbot or something? Call me some names, mention some sand in my vagina or something of the sort. You can't expect me to come up with reasonable arguments man!" -- MaverickZ

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  2. It is Fake is offline
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamon Guy
    For fucks sake - a demo includes fighting techniques and shows how Kevin Chan fights
    Yeah of course it isn't the same as Kevin fighting a random stranger, but it is still to do with fighting ability and the quality of a school

    And the comment was aimed at Kevin, not me



    Yep. Its so fun.
    A demo is not a fight, sparring, drills or even pushups. It is choreography and that is it. Wushu is made up of random fight techniques. Enlightened people know it is just a demo and has no connection to fighting or sparring.
  3. It is Fake is offline
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    Member since 2005 you get a 9/10.

    Good job.
  4. Kamon Guy is offline

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    10/11/2007 1:22pm


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    In Kamon we do feeding techniques, where a person will attack and we will beat the crap out of them. This for me is not sparring and I don't ever keep it in the same category. Sparring should be about judging distances, moving with opponents etc. In wing chun we get in there and stay there.

    And yes I have sparred in boxing, BJJ, karate, CKD and escrima.
  5. Kintanon is offline
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    Posted On:
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     Style: TKD, BJJ

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    Also, as to the Rooted thing, isn't keeping your back foot flat on the ground while moving your front leg around to follow someone who is stepping off of the line a good way to torque the **** out of your knee?
  6. Kamon Guy is offline

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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Kagan
    The moment passed.


    You claim the foot work moves, but it's planted (flat-footed). Thus, this is why WC sucks at a primary methodology (sparring) inherently necessary to work out whether your fighting fundamentals are any good.

    Are you sure you are an advocate of the style?
    I never said I was an advocate. I enjoy it but it still has many flaws. Especially traditional wing chun which is very flat footed
  7. It is Fake is offline
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kintanon
    Also, as to the Rooted thing, isn't keeping your back foot flat on the ground while moving your front leg around to follow someone who is stepping off of the line a good way to torque the **** out of your knee?
    Naw but, you are not stopping any kind of shoot that way.
  8. Kamon Guy is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kintanon
    Also, as to the Rooted thing, isn't keeping your back foot flat on the ground while moving your front leg around to follow someone who is stepping off of the line a good way to torque the **** out of your knee?
    No the foot moves with it. The foot keeps flat, but turns
  9. Tom Kagan is offline
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    Posted On:
    10/11/2007 1:25pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamon Guy
    And yes I have sparred in boxing, BJJ, karate, CKD and escrima.
    But not in Wing Chun, right?
    Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

    "Your calm and professional manner of response is really draining all the fun out of this. Can you reply more like Dr. Fagbot or something? Call me some names, mention some sand in my vagina or something of the sort. You can't expect me to come up with reasonable arguments man!" -- MaverickZ

    "Tom Kagan spins in his grave and the fucking guy isn't even dead yet." -- Snake Plissken

    My Bullshido fan club threads:
    Tom Kagan's a big hairy...
    Tom Kagan can lick my BALLS
    Tom Kagan teaches _ing __un and bigotry?
    Tom Kagan: Serious discussion here
    Lamokio asks the burning question is Tom Kagan a ***** or just cruising for some
    I'm Dave the gay Kickboxer from Manchester and I have the hots for Tom Kagan
    TOM KAGAN, OPEN ME, THE MKT ARE COMING FOR YOU ! ARE YOU MAN ENOUGH TO MEET ?
    ATTN TOM KAGAN
    World Dominator 'Kagan' in plot to lie about real Kung Fu and Martial Arts
    Tom Kagan just gave me my third negative rep in a day
    I am infatuated with Tom Kagan
    Tom Kagan is a fat balding white guy.
  10. Kamon Guy is offline

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    Posted On:
    10/11/2007 1:26pm


     Style: Wing Chun

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake
    A demo is not a fight, sparring, drills or even pushups. It is choreography and that is it. Wushu is made up of random fight techniques. Enlightened people know it is just a demo and has no connection to fighting or sparring.
    There is no choreograpphy when Kevin Chan does fighting demos. He just says 'come at me with anything' and we do. We could go in with a flying kick, but we try and keep it a bit sensible

    There is no 'you hit me with that hand' etc. Anything goes
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