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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Kagan
    It's probably a good thing no one told the boxers that because they might have gotten hurt if they knew their stance was too risky.
    Are you guys dumb?
    I never said their stance was too risky.
    I said -
    TO TURN a flat footed stance into a boxers stance is risky

    If you are a boxer and you approach a fight, you will already be in your loose stance

    If you are a chunner you will have a flat footed stance

    Wake up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamon Guy
    As for sweeping, I will often drag people down with me, but I have only ever fought two people who tried to sweep me
    The front leg is loose and the backleg is hard to reach.
    I have 260 good reasons why I don't think this will work out in your favor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamon Guy
    This is why wing chun is no good at sparring

    I am momentarily at a total loss for words.
    Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

    "Your calm and professional manner of response is really draining all the fun out of this. Can you reply more like Dr. Fagbot or something? Call me some names, mention some sand in my vagina or something of the sort. You can't expect me to come up with reasonable arguments man!" -- MaverickZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by FickleFingerOfFate
    I have 260 good reasons why I don't think this will work out in your favor.
    And they are? Kidding

    When I dragged people down with me, it worked brilliantly and I demolished them (sitting on their head)

    As for the stance, it has worked so far, but then these have been street orientated fights as opposed to sparring or brawls.
    I don't use this footwork when I spar (as I spar through boxing etc)

    But hey, I'm still learning as a martial artist and a fighter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Kagan
    I am momentarily at a total loss for words.
    Yippeee!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamon Guy
    So you don't think 'bollocks chun' is a comment on fighting ability or school quality?
    It was a demo. Read the whole sentence. You've been bitching about everyone going to see a Demo to prove someone could fight. He said he saw a Demo and it was the same WC bollocks he'd seen before. Now, how you say this means he can't fight I don't know.

    So if someone said to you I saw you fighting and it just looks like the same old Xingyi crap, you wouldn't take that as an insult?
    I'd ask them to step up and fight me, not my coach, not my friend, not my Grand Master me.
    Oh wait RD was commenting on a DEMO not a fight. So, your point is irrelevant. Demo=/=Fight I know this so the comment wouldn't bother me at all.

    What is with the escalation?

    Oh wait you love to go to extremes.
    Last edited by It is Fake; 10/11/2007 1:14pm at .

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake
    I'd ask them to step up and fight me, not my coach, not my friend, not my Grand Master me.
    Oh wait RD was commenting on a DEMO not a fight. What is with the escalation?.
    For fucks sake - a demo includes fighting techniques and shows how Kevin Chan fights
    Yeah of course it isn't the same as Kevin fighting a random stranger, but it is still to do with fighting ability and the quality of a school

    And the comment was aimed at Kevin, not me


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    Oh wait you love to go to extremes.
    Yep. Its so fun.

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    Wait, wait just one second here. I am CERTAIN I just saw where you have typed that Wing Chun is no good in sparring. If Wing Chun is no good in sparring, what, in the name of all that is holy and good in the world, gives you the idea that Wing Chun will be good in a fight of ANY kind? You're martial art doesn't automatically become good just because your attackers intent changes from Not Kill to Kill. If you can't stop me from slamming you and slapping on a choke while sparring, what makes you think you could ever stop it in any situation? I'm confused. You've confused me. I think you might be a troll... or a retard... I'm not sure which.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamon Guy
    Sorry I missed your last two comments!

    The footwork still moves, but is just more planted. This is why wing chun is no good at sparring - a boxers footwork is quicker but there is less substance behind it (ie if a grappler goes for a shoot the boxer will have to sprawll immediately). Traditional styles of wing chun/karate are too planted so its like a tree that cannot move. I did mention earlier in another post that Kevin Chan demonstrated how strong a stance can be. But in kamon we tend to come away from both and keep the footwork light, but planted

    I'm sure other arts/fighters do this. But its rare to see it in wing chun (I have arguments daily with wing chunners who insist that they cannot be taken to the floor)

    So if you step off line, we will turn with you (ie the backfoot is still planted but the front foot can adjust as you turn

    As for sweeping, I will often drag people down with me, but I have only ever fought two people who tried to sweep me
    The front leg is loose and the backleg is hard to reach.
    *blink blink*

    You have never sparred in your life. You have been trolling us this entire thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kintanon
    Wait, wait just one second here. I am CERTAIN I just saw where you have typed that Wing Chun is no good in sparring. If Wing Chun is no good in sparring, what, in the name of all that is holy and good in the world, gives you the idea that Wing Chun will be good in a fight of ANY kind? You're martial art doesn't automatically become good just because your attackers intent changes from Not Kill to Kill. If you can't stop me from slamming you and slapping on a choke while sparring, what makes you think you could ever stop it in any situation? I'm confused. You've confused me. I think you might be a troll... or a retard... I'm not sure which.
    Oh you must have missed the other thread. This time he fleshed it out more. It isn't the first time has has said it is no good for sparring.

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