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  1. aaaargh is offline

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     Style: Inept BJJer

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    a) Rickson sure likes having his neck rubbed. That was like 1/4 of the film.

    b) If the difference between BJJ and other combat sports is BJJ is as realistic as possible for a fight, shouldn't BJJ train striking? And without a gi? Just saying.
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     Style: Wrestling, BJJ n00b

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaaargh
    If the difference between BJJ and other combat sports is BJJ is as realistic as possible for a fight, shouldn't BJJ train striking? And without a gi? Just saying.
    That's called MMA, or sometimes "Jits with Hits."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uri Shatil
    That's called MMA, or sometimes "Jits with Hits."
    Exactly my point.

    Edit- In case you didn't spend an hour and a half watcing the documentary, I was responding to Rickson saying that BJJ was different from other combat sports because it trained for real fighting.
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    GJJ != sport BJJ

    They trained in the gi, but they fought Vale Tudo without it, and including strikes.

    On another note, my ex-roommate was saying that apparently all the Gracies had to cross train in another style, Rickson trained wrestling and boxing, Royce trained Karate. Not sure what the source is, but that probably has a lot to do with GJJ beating other styles - they knew the style they were fighting, and a bunch of stuff their opponent didn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by migo
    GJJ != sport BJJ

    They trained in the gi, but they fought Vale Tudo without it, and including strikes.

    On another note, my ex-roommate was saying that apparently all the Gracies had to cross train in another style, Rickson trained wrestling and boxing, Royce trained Karate. Not sure what the source is, but that probably has a lot to do with GJJ beating other styles - they knew the style they were fighting, and a bunch of stuff their opponent didn't.
    And how did this alleged "ex-roomate" come across this info?
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    Posted On:
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    I believe GJJ back in Brazil was much more geared for Vale Tudo, as that was their claim to fame. So dealing with guys trying to GnP inside the guard and such were probably more commonplace than in typical BJJ schools nowadays. This is 100% speculation mind you.
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     Style: Inept BJJer

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    Quote Originally Posted by KempoFist
    I believe GJJ back in Brazil was much more geared for Vale Tudo, as that was their claim to fame. So dealing with guys trying to GnP inside the guard and such were probably more commonplace than in typical BJJ schools nowadays. This is 100% speculation mind you.
    I don't think much GnP goes on at all in typical BJJ schools nowadays, unless they're also MMA schools.
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    Yeah, that was kind of the same point he was making. Thanks for coming out.
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     Style: Baboo Baby

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightin Penguin
    And how did this alleged "ex-roomate" come across this info?
    The ****? That is the most retarded questioning I've ever seen. ex-roommate in quotes and saying it's alleged? You're questioning whether he was actually my roommate? You're a fucking retard. I could have said it was someone I met, that makes no difference and would have been equally accurate as I obviously have met my ex-rommate. It could have also been something I read on a blog online. Jeesus fucking christ, you just won an award for most idiotic questioning of facts in the past 3 millienia.
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    Did the documentary end early for everyone else as well? It gets to the point where all the fighters are in the ring and ends (52 mins in)
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