9/26/2007 8:18pm, #11Originally Posted by goosetherumfoodleMore human than human is our motto.
9/26/2007 9:28pm, #12
Originally Posted by goosetherumfoodle
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9/26/2007 9:41pm, #13
Here's post #39 from the article's comment section:
Wow... just wow. Jason, did you do ANY research before writing this article? Take this as constructive criticism, but I highly suggest, for your own reputation’s sake, that you take down this article, do a little research, rewrite it, and try backing up your opinions with some solid, cited facts. I respect your right to have an opinion, but the way in which you’ve delivered it just makes you look uneducated and foolish. Contact the NSAC, mention my name, and talk to them. You claim we run from their regulation, but they, themselves, will not only correct you on that point, but will educate you on our safety (among the best, per capita, in professional contact sports), class, and sportsmanship.
Do your career a favor, Jason. Do your homework.
Dana White | 2007-09-26 - 03:58:45 PM (CDT)
9/26/2007 11:34pm, #14
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MMA = Human Dogfighting - including a reference to Michael Vick
1. See his comment on how boxing embraces regulation while MMA orgs "run from it."
2. There's no such thing as graceful MMA fighters.
3. 131 comments all basically calling him a dumbass.
4. Obligatory "cock-fighting" reference.
Mixed martial arts = legalized dog fighting
By Jason Andreasen
Contrary to what that frat guy next to you says, “Ultimate Fighting” or “Mixed Martial Arts” is neither a sport nor anything but people beating the life out of one another.
Remember when everyone was up in arms about the Michael Vick fiasco? Remember how everyone rightfully pretended to vomit when they talked about dogs being driven to kill each other? Why don’t we have the same reaction when we watch two grown men pummel each other until one is so bloodied and dazed that he collapses?
The obvious answer is that the “fighters” choose to step into the ring and get their faces beaten in. While this is true, and is a credible distinction between dog fighting and mixed martial arts (MMA), the two are still very similar.
It is the primal urges that make us almost not human and drive the ratings for UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championship) pay-per-view specials through the roof. These same urges drive fans of dog fighting and cock fighting to trailer parks and professional football players’ houses. We want to see blood and fighters knocked unconscious by a roundhouse kick to the head, and we want to see someone standing over their bloodied body.
The fact of the matter is that the popularity of MMA is directly tied to the society that we live in on a day-to-day basis. You may have seen a primetime news special or two about “fight clubs” popping up all around the country with members being average guys who work at a desk all day long.
At night, they go into a buddy’s basement, recite some macho garbage about there being no rules and attack each other with sticks, swords and their bare knuckles.
This is in direct correlation to the fact that they have no way to let their aggression out or to let their natural testosterone levels be exercised. Instead, they end up in a “fight club” one night and parked in front of a UFC fight the next.
As for the growing popularity of MMA, now the “worldwide leader in sports” has gotten in on the act. Let’s face it: When ESPN calls something a sport, America calls it a sport. The fact that ESPN has been covering MMA events, even a little, gives them credibility in the sports world.
Instead of having a serious discussion about why this is barbaric and a sign of straight-up devolution, ESPN shows UFC commentator and comedian (yes, comedian) Joe Rogan yelling and carrying on about how graceful it is when Chuck Liddell (a popular UFC fighter) straddles another guy and relentlessly beats his face in. Seriously?
Of course, how could I rant and rave about how terrible MMA is without talking about boxing and even professional wrestling?
First of all, boxing is a completely different animal. Boxing is regulated by various entities like the Nevada State Athletic Commission; meanwhile, MMA organizations run from such regulation. Furthermore, greats like Muhammad Ali were graceful and cunning while Tito Ortiz, a popular UFC fighter, just tries to beat someone’s head in. There is no beauty, no poetry-in-motion.
As for professional wrestling, at least that is staged. The people who watch the WWE do it as much for the soap opera storylines as they do for the violence. It is scripted and choreographed. I would rather live in a culture that watches choreographed fighting rather than this barbaric and senseless human cock fighting.
The fact is that MMA, while it may contain different forms of martial arts, appears to be little more than an excuse to watch someone get the crap beaten out of them. You can try and tell me all about how I don’t understand the intricacies of the “sport,” but I know what I see.
What I see is a bunch of steroid-using guys beating each other up with little or no restriction. You call that a sport? I call it human blood-sport, and I think it is sad that it is the fastest growing “sport” in the world.
E-mail the author at JasonAndreasen@tigerweekly.com
9/26/2007 11:40pm, #15
9/27/2007 3:56am, #16
I think dog fighting is animal MMA.
9/27/2007 4:42am, #17
Sensationalism is the easy way to fame for publicity whores. This is an attempt on it, nothing else. He fails and doesn't even have any new arguments.Curiosity killed the cat. But damn it had a blast.
9/27/2007 6:39am, #18
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I cannot fucking stand it when somebody brings up this "Boxing takes skill, all MMA people do is beat the **** out of people on the ground" BULLSHIT.
Seriously, I abso-fucking-lutely hate people who act like they understand any fucking thing. Maybe you just have to be in a full range match to fucking understand how **** works.
I hope by 2020 that it will be mandatory in almost every highschool to do at least some kind of MMA sparring as physical education.
"poetry" give me a fucking BREAK. This fucking bullshit is just like me saying "Oh well those shaolin monk guys actually fight. It's beautiful, it's poetry. All those boxers, that's just two guys beating the **** out of each other." This writer is a stupid ************.
9/27/2007 7:34am, #19
By 2020 boxing will be considered a subset of complete fighting skills with a few specialized fighters. However, most practice it only to get better striking skills to their MMA set, where all the money is by then.
.. At least in Dana White's wet dreams. Time will tell :)Curiosity killed the cat. But damn it had a blast.
9/27/2007 7:37am, #20
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Obviously this guy is a fucking armchair tard who likes to make comments about boxing (and more so, comments of boxing over MMA), even though the closest to boxing he's ever been is on TV (or jacking off to a wallpaper of Muhammad Ali.) This article is soooooooooooo pre-1996-John-Mccain'ish, so poorly written, I'm amazed someone with a college education can write that and not have a seizure out of pure shame.
C'mon, he cannot possibly believe the tripe he's writing. The shitload of stupidity in that article is so fucking humungus, it doesn't even deserve a half-baked retort. Only one word, one picture can capture the essence of Jason Adreansen:
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