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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh El Macho
    This would be only true if it not were for the false premises that every 'real' street fight
    I think you forgot one that the false premises listed don't include el Macho- surprise. I'd refer again to the "sucker punch" thread, where you talked about this
    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=53516
    and the also very good jail yard rush knife attack thread
    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=59879

    There's a reason STAB is called survival tactics against a blade, ie.

    There has been much said on the subject of avoiding a knife attack. Where possible, avoidance or escape are clearly the best options. STAB concentrates on what to do if these lines of defence fail. It works at close range and takes into account the possibility that a person may already have been stabbed before realising they are in a knife fight . . .
    The first drill applied the single commonsense rule of survival that runs throughout the programme: namely running away from a knifeman. As soon as that blade appears your primary objective is to escape. Once a blade is shown you run. Likewise, Karl explained, once you have controlled or neutralized the threat of a blade, you make your escape immediately. The S.T.A.B. programme uses three methods, which all flow onto each other. These all follow wrestling holds and principles . . .
    http://www.clubbchimera.com/?p=131

    So IMHO if someone's evaluating the quality of a strategy or program for "deadly street dangers", they should make sure it includes:
    situational awareness/avoidance- besides common sense ("avoid shitty bars and strip clubs"), you could say it's about reaction time, which you can't get from a video or seminar. Sparring/fighting/training would obviously help.
    the ability to keep going/GTFO after you've been hit/stabbed- cardio, endurance, and the fact that wrestling something away from someone or taking a punch could be improved by having wrestled/taken punches.

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    I'm surprised no one has brought up Osiris vs Kung-Fu Racist. Didn't the Kung fu guy go for the eye gouge and got bit for his trouble?
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    BJJ might make you a better ground fighter, but Judo will make you a better dancer. Join us... or die

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    Lol, the ironing...

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    To the OP: No. No one's style addresses dirty fighting. Ever. Why not? Because they're all scared. That's right. Scared.

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    Kittens are cute.


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    Griffin has choked out Rua. GRIFFIN HAS CHOKED OUT RUA! FORREST BY GOD GRIFFIN HAS JUST CHOKED OUT MAURICO 'SHOGUN" RUA!

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    Fighting in teh streets will lead to one of two things usually.

    1. A dead locked brawl, where someones getting knocked the **** out. Even a pro MMA fighter would rather get a solid jaw shot instead of pick shots and take their time. Less time you spend fighting the less of a chance you have getting hurt.

    2. Fight gets fucked up by friends/cops/random people/etc...

    Aside from that the better prepared (mentally and physically) will win the fight regardless of 'dirty fighting'.

    P.S. GRIFFIN HAS CHOKED OUT RUA!

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    dirty fighting? like foreplay? lol sorry too easy.

    nah neither bjj or karambit stuff do that.

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    Oh yes, my style definitely teaches us to defend against dirty fighting. It is ingrained in my mind that I must protect my nuts (though I have none) and I have various sekrit nut protecting techniques.

    We do train against head butts too, though the last time someone did that his head went into a wall.

    Come train with me, we have what you're looking for.

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