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    “…what they’d done was worse than r-ping my mother”

    “I told Murilo Bustamante, Ricardo Liborio and Jose Mario Sperry that what they’d done was worse than raping my mother".----Carlson Gracie

    I didn’t know that there was such bad blood between Carlson Gracie and The Brazilian Top Team until I stumbled across this article in Gracie Magizine. http://www.graciemag.com/?c=148&a=3987

    I googled and found this also http://www.subfighter.com/news.php?id=152

    Or this

    “Carlson: Because I don't want be 'awarded' with the same ingratitude again. People know who I'm talking about. I don't have anything against BTT or ATT, but I just don't like Jose Mario Sperry, Bebeo Duarte, Murilo Bustamante, Vitor Belfort, Carlos Barreto, and Ricardo Liborio. They were ingrates to me. I can't teach fighters, and then after some time they abandon me. So I have to prevent this by signing contracts. These contracts will be very good for the fighters.”

    At http://www.realfightgear.com/index.p...t=&op=cat&id=5

    Or this http://fightsport.com/fightsport/new...t_archive.html

    Or this by current Main head-coach of Carlson Gracie Team in Brazil
    DM: That fight was the first time Carlson Team met BTT in a MMA competition. Did you take that fight by the rivalry?

    MANIMAL: Absolutely not! I can't give any prop to this kind of rivalry. I meant, Master Carlson Sr. stayed in last years 'feeding' this rivalry against BTT, and I ask you, what did he get with this attitude? Anything; I answer you. Carlson Sr. with this he forgot his team and his students here in Brazil, and dedicated himself at bashing BTT fighters. I think Carlson Team didn't gain anything with that potential aggressive rivalry acquired against BTT. I don't want this; I want to beat all academies. This doesn't matter if it was BTT or others. We need to prove inside the ring, and this will be what we will follow here in my academy. That opportunity of fighting "with" (and not against) BTT was fantastic for us. In my opinion Carlson was represented by both athletes on that fight.

    At:http://onthemat.com/articles/Intervi...6_30_2006.html


    I thought there was some bad blood between Helio’s side and Carlos side of the family but I don’t think it holds a candle to this.

    Does anyone know how this all started and how it got this bad?

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    What happened? They role played as his mother?
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    who the **** cares man, stop gossiping like an old bitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicagoguy
    but I just don't like Jose Mario Sperry, Bebeo Duarte, Murilo Bustamante, Vitor Belfort, Carlos Barreto, and Ricardo Liborio.
    That's a pretty dangerous-sounding shitlist.

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    sochin, are you french by any chance?

    last time i was in england i met this french girl who actually lived there, i thought she was so brave.
    Coming from france and having to live in the country that has little chefs...god little chef is so horrible.

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