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  1. spirez is offline

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    Berardi's 7 habits - Anyone follow it exclusively?

    I don't know if you are all familiar with his actual meal planner so here it is:

    Meal #1:
    2 cups egg whites
    1 cup spinach
    1 slice cheese
    1 cup pineapple
    3 fish oil capsules
    To drink:
    1 cup green tea with lemon
    2 cups water

    Meal #2:
    4 oz grilled chicken breast
    1 cup spinach
    red pepper, sliced
    cup onion, sliced
    1 tbsp flax oil
    1 tbsp apple cider vinegar
    To drink:
    2 cups water

    Meal #3:
    8 oz grilled extra lean beef
    1 cup spinach
    1 cup carrots
    4 tbsp walnuts
    1 tsp fresh garlic, minced
    1 tbsp apple cider vinegar
    1 piece fruit (e.g., 1 whole apple, pear, orange, etc)
    3 fish oil capsules
    To drink:
    2 cups water

    Meal #4:
    4 oz grilled chicken breast
    1 cup spinach
    red pepper, sliced
    cup onion, sliced
    1 tbsp olive oil
    1 tbsp vinegar
    To drink:
    2 cups water

    Meal #5:
    8 oz grilled extra lean beef
    1 cup spinach
    1 cup carrots
    4 tbsp walnuts
    1 tsp fresh garlic, minced
    1 tbsp apple cider vinegar
    1 piece fruit
    1 baked potato/yam
    3 fish oil capsules
    To drink:
    2 cups water

    Meal #6:
    cup plain yogurt
    1 scoop milk protein powder
    banana
    To drink:
    2 cups water

    Workout Drink
    (sip during exercise)
    30g whey protein
    60g carbohydrate/sports drink powder
    3-4 cups water

    Post Workout Drink
    (drink immediately after)
    30g whey protein
    60g carbohydrate/sports drink powder
    3-4 cups water

    As you can see, the plan has no starchy carbs such as potatoes, oats or rice etc in the main meals. I think the only time he advocates them is post workout, possibly during too.

    Have any of you guys followed a diet like this exclusively and found energy levels to be ok throughout training etc? Usually i would always eat a meal with brown basmati before training as it's low gi etc, but then i'm guessing the sheer amount of veg would cover this?

    I've been trying the diet the last couple of days and feel good but haven't been able to train due to my car being bust.
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    I've never been that meticulous with my diet, so I have to say nope, never done it. As long as I have something to munch 6-7 times a day I'm fine.

    Looking at that diet, I can tell you. No way I can function with it. I gotta have my carbs (oats, rice, whole weat bread), specially in the mornings.
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    9/12/2007 12:52pm


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    Thing is, i've just been watching a seminar of his from the No Nonsense Nutrition DVD and he states that the diet is for active people, from weightlifting to track & field. One of the competitors he trains/trained is Stephanie Worsfold, i'm sure there are others but she was on the DVD.

    http://www.stephanieworsfold.com/

    I'm skeptical too but i'm gonna give it a go and see how i get on. I like the fact that it's so simple and you can do all of your prep in the morning in 35 minutes.

    He also mentions that acid base stuff from the other thread you started a while back.
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    9/12/2007 12:54pm


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    Oh, and don't get me wrong, i'll still be treating myself regularly!
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    I tried a strict South Beach Diet one time (from the original book). I had so little energy I could barely work let alone workout. I guess maybe your body transitions to it but I couldn't function. Also, going cold turkey on caffeine gave me horrible headaches.
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    I would question that diet because of all the spinach which has a lot of iron. That can't be good to do for too long.
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    How long do you wait between meals?
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    I work for a living, I can't spend all my time eating and cooking. Diets like this always seem to be unsustainable in the long run. A guy at work tries to do stuff like this. He ends up cheating all the time. I guess it depends on your goals.

    If you can stick with it, I am sure it is fine. But if you can't, de-motivation is likely to be a bigger hindrance than the actual food. There does seem to be quite a bit of cholesterol and iron as a previous person stated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJson
    I would question that diet because of all the spinach which has a lot of iron. That can't be good to do for too long.
    The tolerable upper intake level of iron for an adult is 45/mg per day according to the DRI. Spinach has 2.7 mg per 100g serving. Which means to even approach the upper level of tolerance you'd have to be eating over 1500g of spinach, which is over three pounds. His daily breakdown was 5 cups, which is barely a third of that number.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrijl
    I work for a living, I can't spend all my time eating and cooking. Diets like this always seem to be unsustainable in the long run. A guy at work tries to do stuff like this. He ends up cheating all the time. I guess it depends on your goals.

    If you can stick with it, I am sure it is fine. But if you can't, de-motivation is likely to be a bigger hindrance than the actual food. There does seem to be quite a bit of cholesterol and iron as a previous person stated.
    I've just watched a bit on the DVD where he makes ALL of the meals for the day as listed in that menu in 15 minutes. That's hardly taxing is it!

    Re Iron/cholesterol, check his resume. I think he knows what he's doing:

    http://www.johnberardi.com/about/jb.htm

    Where do you think it's high in cholesterol? There are no processed foods and it's high in monos and polys. Read fatherdog's post re iron.

    It's not a fad diet. In fact it's not even a diet in the sense of the word that means for losing weight etc. The meal plan i posted is actually for "gaining muscle mass"

    BTW if people didn't see the original article:

    http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/...on/7habits.htm

    ojgsxr6, you eat every 2-3 hours. Considering 1 is when you get up and 6 is right before you go to bed, it's not that much imo to eat 4 meals throughout the day. Especially when they're all pre-made.
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