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  1. Kanazawa is offline

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    Posted On:
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    Mc Donald / Leong Lawyers

    PLEASE CONTACT BYRON LEONG AUSTRALIA ON 07 / 4723 5155 OR FAX AUSTRALIA

    07 / 4723 5197 OR E - MAIL bdleong@mcdleong.com.au


    This is in Regards to Lothar Lee Shotokan Karate Defamation on your Website IN
    AUSTRALIA and INTERNATIONAL. THIS SITE NEED TO BE REMOVED IMMEDITLY.

    MC Donald
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    Dear Sirs,

    I would like to direct your attention, first and foremost, to the thread in question.

    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=53206&

    Next, to the pivotal post made by the Original Poster (OP).

    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...5&postcount=31

    And, also to these two posts which Mr. Lee can easily refute by providing evidence to the contrary of the positions given.

    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...5&postcount=35
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    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...0&postcount=88

    The SKIA itself has taken actions which Mr. Lee, at the time of this thread's posts, did not take action to follow, ie. taking down fraudulent SKIA instructorship claims.

    What follows is merely my OPINION, which is not defamation in any form because opinion as stated can be held and given without recourse:

    Using a word like "site" to describe the single "thread" needing to be taken down does not lend itself well to an intelligent, degree holding Lawyer, nor a "firm" or corporation of lawyers or legal counsel of any type. Nor does misspelling "immediately". Also, serving summons via an internet forum post would be less than legal I believe.
  3. It is Fake is offline
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanazawa
    PLEASE CONTACT BYRON LEONG AUSTRALIA ON 07 / 4723 5155 OR FAX AUSTRALIA

    07 / 4723 5197 OR E - MAIL bdleong@mcdleong.com.au


    This is in Regards to Lothar Lee Shotokan Karate Defamation on your Website IN
    AUSTRALIA and INTERNATIONAL. THIS SITE NEED TO BE REMOVED IMMEDITLY.

    MC Donald
    Leong Lawyers

    AUSTRALIA
    Quoted just for posterity and to avoid any changes to the original post.

    I'd also like to know if you contacted the Original Poster (aka OP) and any of the principals providing email confirmations.

    Thank you.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanazawa
    PLEASE CONTACT BYRON LEONG AUSTRALIA ON 07 / 4723 5155 OR FAX AUSTRALIA

    07 / 4723 5197 OR E - MAIL bdleong@mcdleong.com.au


    This is in Regards to Lothar Lee Shotokan Karate Defamation on your Website IN
    AUSTRALIA and INTERNATIONAL. THIS SITE NEED TO BE REMOVED IMMEDITLY.

    MC Donald
    Leong Lawyers

    AUSTRALIA
    Could you please point out exactly what Mr Lee or his counsel deem to be "defamation"?

    The thread was fair, and any claims were challenged and evidence demanded.

    Also, you sign the post as if you work for the law firm concerned. Is this the case?
  5. Gezere is offline
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanazawa
    PLEASE CONTACT BYRON LEONG AUSTRALIA ON 07 / 4723 5155 OR FAX AUSTRALIA

    07 / 4723 5197 OR E - MAIL bdleong@mcdleong.com.au


    This is in Regards to Lothar Lee Shotokan Karate Defamation on your Website IN
    AUSTRALIA and INTERNATIONAL. THIS SITE NEED TO BE REMOVED IMMEDITLY.

    MC Donald
    Leong Lawyers

    AUSTRALIA
    You would think a Law Firm, even an Aussie one, would at least use proper spelling and grammar when threating legal action. :gaygay:
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    Posted On:
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    Or threaten some legal action even. Maybe it's Mc Dojos, and they/he/she/it spells it differently, just a guess...anyway, the thread was indeed fair, and it sounds as though he got busted lying.

    I love how it's addressed AUSTRALIA, as though the whole country is their office. 1/10
  7. Lebell is offline
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    Posted On:
    9/17/2007 7:05am

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    ymas please.

    ofcourse these guys arent lawyers, if they were they would be the dumb and dumber version of lawyers and the people who gave them their licenses should be dragged out of their homes and then get shot.

    A proper lawyer would just contact a moderator, or eventually a provider to shut it down.
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    Posted On:
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    So if I understand their claim they want the "site" removed? Sorry its not going to happen.

    Bullshido.net is an American corporation. The staff and the website itself is not responsible for the postings of individual members and we do not believe that an Australian Court has jurisdiction over our Website.

    Please also review Zeran v. America Online, Incorporated, 129 F.3d 327 (1997) which is the controlling case in our country. Obtaining jurisdiction over individual posters in the United States based on a claim of defamation in Australia will also be an interesting legal task.

    Finally your letter contains many flaws which leads me to believe that we are not actually dealing with a real lawyer or law firm.
  9. Lebell is offline
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    Posted On:
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    thank you sherlock.
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    hall of famestaff
     

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    No Lebell the line is: "No ****, Sherlock, where did you leave the squad car? Parked out in the the back?"
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