Early UFC losers/ Where are they now

**Fighting Cephalopod** · Posted On: 9/14/2007 11:36pm

Originally Posted by meataxe

I want to know what happened to Harold Howard. His entourage looked like The Trailerpark Boys and he was working on incorporating his Karate back into his Jujitsu. I wonder how that worked out.

I was rooting for him, but it didn't work out so well after the match where Royce threw in the towel. Apparently he did a Vale Tudo match after that.

http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/f...p?FighterID=41

Harold Howard was fucking awesome. He had the first butterfly sweep in the Octagon, not to mention the first mullet.

**M-Tri** · Posted On: 9/14/2007 11:49pm

Originally Posted by fatherdog

Daiju Takase, who is like the Liborio of Japan; well known as one of the greatest grapplers ever in training, but rarely performing up to his potential in competition. Mainly known for being Anderson Silva's most completely one-sided loss.

Bingo! that's the one :)

**Holy Moment** · Posted On: 9/15/2007 9:40am

I believe he thought he had a stroke so he retired and as for where is he now, he is running the Lion's Den Dallas as well as assistant coaching Ken Shamrock's IFL team, running Art of War as well as Mark Cuban's new MMA promotion HDNet Fights.

Sure you aren't thinking of Brian Johnston? He had a blood vessle broken when someone neck-cranked him in training and he couldn't fight anymore.

**Holy Moment** · Posted On: 9/15/2007 9:46am

Andy Anderson is an interesting case. After he lost to Hess, he stood in the MMA business for years. Read Clyde Gentry's book; he's all over it. Also look for him in the backgrounds in old UFC tapes. According to the book, he punched a drunk and out of hand Bas Rutten after the first IFC event and Ko'ed Paul Herrera in a bar fight.

**Naszir** · Posted On: 9/15/2007 10:12am

Originally Posted by Holy Moment

Sure you aren't thinking of Brian Johnston? He had a blood vessle broken when someone neck-cranked him in training and he couldn't fight anymore.

No I'm thinking of Guy. Check out his wiki sometime. He officially retired in 2005. He was supposed to fight Tito at UFC 50 but thought he had a stroke so he was hospitalized.

**Goldust** · Posted On: 9/15/2007 10:27am

Christophe Leninger (UFC 3 vs. Ken Shamrock, UFC 13 vs. Guy Mezger)

Leninger continued to teach Judo in Arizona and fought several times in small local shows and local grappling tournaments. His last fight was a loss to Edwin DeWees when he was just starting out. He eventually got married had kids and sold his school. The last I heard he had to have hip replacement surgery and had largely stopped training. I ran into him a few years back, he seemed to be doing ok and looked to be in pretty good shape for a guy who had major surgery and had to be in his late 40's by then.

**Ke?poFist** · Posted On: 9/15/2007 12:25pm

lol @ Hess

From Wiki: "Hess claims to have later been blacklisted from the UFC and never allowed to return, due to a contractual dispute with then promoter Art Davies. Hess has since challenged the UFC to allow him to return, an offer which they have yet to take him up on. [2] After UFC 5 Hess fired Lew Hicks as his manager and they went their separate ways, creating two separate schools of S.A.F.T.A.

A year later at SB 2-SuperBrawl 2, where he lost by KO in 12 seconds. Hess has not fought professionally since this loss, but has stated in an interview [3] with Sherdog that if he was allowed to come back he would be "world champ" "

**Holy Moment** · Posted On: 9/15/2007 1:48pm

Originally Posted by Naszir

No I'm thinking of Guy. Check out his wiki sometime. He officially retired in 2005. He was supposed to fight Tito at UFC 50 but thought he had a stroke so he was hospitalized.

I was wondering what happened to him.

By the way, this is what happened to Hess: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGm4io45z8E