9/12/2007 6:42pm, #1
Sebekkha: "ancient Egyptian" martial art
The July 1988 issue of Black Belt magazine featured an article on a martial art called Sebekkha, which was translated as meaning "Crocodile Spirit". The article claimed that a man named Gamal Selim, who was also the proprietor of a gym called the Egyptian Temple of Fitness, was among the few remaining practitioners of this style, which was said to have been passed down via a lineage of Egyptian priests over a period of 3000 years.
In 1993 Gamal Selim produced a book entitled "The Pharaohs Warrior: A reference guide to the ancient Egyptian culture", which appears to be out of print.
In 2007, a man named Ramses Seleem - who is, going by the pictures on his website, the man formerly known as Gamal Selim - is operating a school called the Sia Academy For Ancient Egyptian Studies, which is apparently based in a church hall in Herne Hill, London. This school offers classes for both children and adults in Sebek-kha, which is described as:
... the oldest martial art in the history of mankind and develops balance in all aspects of combat: speed, power, agility, strength, defences and attacks. Since the preparation of the warrior was considered as important as the fighting techniques themselves, this class provides the ideal means to attain fitness, flexibility and self-defence skills.
The Sia Academy website also offers an instructional Sebek-kha VHS tape and DVD - http://www.siaacademy.com/html/bookstapes.html
Master Ramses Seleem is described as:
... a distinguished teacher of Egyptology, a lecturer and writer, who has appeared on many television and radio programmes internationally to discuss the ancient Egyptian way of life. Dr. Seleem studied this tradition for over 25 years. This study, which involved eight hours’ physical training and four hours’ theory a day, had to be fitted in around a normal school education. The present population of Egypt comprises 90% Moslems, 8% Coptic Christians and 1% foreign settlers and only 1% remains Egyptian. One-half of this 1% are the ones who keep this tradition alive to this day, although the number of these custodians of the ancient Egyptian body of knowledge is decreasing annually.
Dr. Seleem achieved examination grades with high honours during his school and university education. In addition to being proficient in the Egyptian physical culture, Dr. Seleem has also studied the leading Asian forms of martial arts, obtaining a third degree black belt in Shoto Kan Karate, a first degree black belt in Judo and a fourth degree Sifu in Kung Fu. He was the head instructor of the Egyptian Karate and Kung Fu Federation and Egyptian martial arts champion for five consecutive years. He achieved an exemplary record during his military service, then travelled to the USA and other countries, including Australia, South Africa and Holland, before moving to London, where he founded the Sia Academy, through which he teaches and lectures.
Note also the following claims from http://www.martialartsclubs.com/clubsinfo/580.php :
The only centre to offer Sebek Kha - the spirit of the crocodile - the ancient Egyptian form of martial arts. It emphasises balance in the use of legs, arms, speed, power, agility, defences, attacks, thrown and holds. Master Ramses Seleem is the instructor. Five-times Egyptian martial arts champion; instructor of the American World Judo Team and black belts in the traditional formats.
9/12/2007 7:28pm, #2
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Great initial work there.
Egypt had Conscription in that period, so its entirely possible he spent time in the military:
http://www.photius.com/countries/egy...nd_res~53.html"Sifu, I"m niether - I'm a fire dragon so don't **** with me!"
9/12/2007 8:30pm, #3
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Hmmm. Apparantly this fellow also writes books that haven't gotten good reviews...
Originally Posted by Kemet Book review site
Originally Posted by Vicky Gashe -- Doctoral Student of Egyptology at the University of Manchester
I rather liked this one from Amazon
Originally Posted by A Reader on Amazon
Edited: to include some review quotes and to fix formatting issues.
2nd Edit: Just took a further look at the kemet site. While the article is opiniated and show definite facts, I'd have to think further about the reliability of site which also includes D&D 3rd edition rules for download...
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9/12/2007 9:00pm, #4
Although the reviewers' consensus does seem to be that Mr. Seleem's scholarship is "eccentric", that simply suggests that he is one of the huge number of people writing New Age claptrap about ancient Egyptians. I'm more interested in his claims about Sebekkha itself, partly because I remember being skeptical about it when the Black Belt article appeared in 1988 and I'm intrigued to learn that Selim/Seleem has re-appeared in London after all these years.
9/13/2007 3:32am, #5
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Some big claims;
"This ancient tradition was taught orally, both to the Pharaohs and also to initiates such as Homer, Plato, Pythagoras, Buddha, the Yellow Emperor of China, Abraham and Moses. It encompasses the study of medicine, astronomy, astrology, gemmology, philosophy, religion, mathematics, language and the system of physical exercise, which is fundamental to the teaching."
9/13/2007 3:56am, #6
And from the same article, dated 1998, which seems to be when Mr. Seleem arrived in London:
Now the full and factual account of this remarkable achievement is available in London through the arrival of Master Ramses Seleem, a member of the ancient Egyptian spiritual order, Unnut, the "Openers of Heaven", which is a secret, though unbroken line stretching back to the dawn of civilisation.
Master Seleem has studied all aspects of the ancient Egyptian tradition for over 25 years. He took a BSc in Economics and Political Science and obtained a PhD in Egyptology at Cairo University, before becoming an officer in the Egyptian Army, where he taught the Green Berets.
9/13/2007 10:37am, #7
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The article claims he is a 1st Black in Judo but http://www.martialartsclubs.com/clubsinfo/580.php lists him as "Instructor to the American World Judo Team". Is Judo so hard up in the U.S. that we need 1st degree Black Belts coaching teams at the national level?
9/13/2007 10:52am, #8
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Sebek/ Sobek was the Egyptian crocodile god/ demon of the Nile. He was said to have captured Horus' four sons with a net when they emerged from the Nile. Sebek was seen as more of a righter of wrongs than one who fought evil. It's amazing what one might pick up from listening to music. Thanks, Nile!
9/13/2007 11:37am, #9Originally Posted by DdlR"You know what I like about you, William? You like guns AND meditation."
9/13/2007 11:56am, #10
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re:Originally Posted by RobT
"Pythagoras can you hurry up and finish that godamn theorem or i'll kick yr ass in sparring!" ...Moses & Budha ffs! lmfao!! this is a classic!