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  1. It is Fake is offline
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    Come on you guys, no we don't ban for stupidity. Hell, we'd loose about 95% of the posters on a daily basis.
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    Thats true. I can even think of a time or two when I deserved a ban. Can we still fire-hose-douche?
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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake
    ^^ You negated this one yourself.




    Did you read the summary of this document?





    This is a reseacrh document polling public perception. You also negated this one.
    Basic public perception..this is my way of saying that it is more than just myself disputing official MPF figures, you need to look at reported instances in individual hospitals then compare them to reported instances of knife/blade puncture and slash wounds by the operating force in that area.
    This information is not widely availible on the internet.
    If you want to make some phone calls and do some ground work fair enough...
    or you can just continue deny to that the official statistics are incorrect.

    I have ceased to care at this point.
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    So you are contending that public perception is usually correct? Yeah. I would deny that, no matter how official the statistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dansta17
    Basic public perception..this is my way of saying that it is more than just myself disputing official MPF figures, you need to look at reported instances in individual hospitals then compare them to reported instances of knife/blade puncture and slash wounds by the operating force in that area.
    This information is not widely availible on the internet.
    If you want to make some phone calls and do some ground work fair enough...
    or you can just continue deny to that the official statistics are incorrect.

    I have ceased to care at this point.
    Then quit posting.



    Quote Originally Posted by dansta17
    My point is that the statistical data is pointless, and useless.
    it does not relate to the actuality of what is taking place.....
    what you read in the newspaper is meaningless when it does not tally with what people go through on a day to day basis.
    I have already explained to you the Police vs Hospital statistics,
    In UK the data is manipulated to suit whichever political party's agenda the wish it to suit.
    Yet, you post statistical polling data and a newspaper article.

    ?????

    Have you figured out why no one takes you seriously?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dansta17
    Ok.....

    You cite this as proof and in the second paragraph it states: -
    There are various ways to portray gun crime statistics, many of which can be
    manipulated to ’create’ trends. In an effort to avoid distortion, we have focused on
    the broadest statistics;
    And you stared earlier:-
    My point is that the statistical data is pointless, and useless.
    it does not relate to the actuality of what is taking place.....

    what you read in the newspaper is meaningless when it does not tally with what people go through on a day to day basis.
    I have already explained to you the Police vs Hospital statistics,
    In UK the data is manipulated to suit whichever political party's agenda the wish it to suit.
    You say statistics are useless, yet use them to defend your point? EDIT-Dammit, IIF got there first!!!

    How can we determine what is going on 'in actuality'?

    I've been to mosside a few times, never had any problems there. Since all the publicity, a lot of money got thrown at the area. It's a lot safer now.
    Last edited by JingMerchant!; 8/01/2008 5:15pm at . Reason: IIF, the bugger got to my point first..... and more eloquently too!! Bastard! *sulks*
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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake
    Then quit posting.





    Yet, you post statistical polling data and a newspaper article.

    ?????

    Have you figured out why no one takes you seriously?

    Im posting outline groundwork to suggest my point.
    I said it is my opinion that the statistics or figures should be correlated against hospital figures.
    Can you prove that the official figures are correct...
    why are you arguing this point - when you don't have the first idea about UK culture and current trends.
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    ^^^ This is the most retarded point. I don't even think you YOU are buying your own bullshit anymore. Why don't you just shut up and let this thread move on.

    Also, with regard to my earlier comment, its grapplers who understand best how to not end up on the ground, defend tackles and stay on their feet, not stand-up fighters. If you really want to sustain long enough to make a break for it, I suggest you learn a thing or two about the jits or wrestling.
    Last edited by Gabetuno; 8/01/2008 5:22pm at .
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    Quote Originally Posted by JingMerchant!
    Ok.....

    You cite this as proof and in the second paragraph it states: -

    And you stared earlier:-

    You say statistics are useless, yet use them to defend your point? EDIT-Dammit, IIF got there first!!!

    How can we determine what is going on 'in actuality'?

    I've been to mosside a few times, never had any problems there. Since all the publicity, a lot of money got thrown at the area. It's a lot safer now.

    I told the guy to do some research for himself - I pointed out a few web articles that provide a link in to this subject.....

    how can I provide evidence when I'm telling you the evidence availible is flawed....

    you guys are just posting contradictions for the sake of it

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