William V Aguiar III sues Ashida Kim and Floyd Webb

**johnpatricio** · Posted On: 10/01/2007 11:59pm

Originally Posted by Dsimon3387

Here Vern:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=C-Bqb5pT5...related&search=

Yeah, but where is the proof of copyright ownership? As far as I know Webb got permission from the people that actually took those photos to use them... and even if he didn't, he claims "fair use", which I believe his documentary actually qualifies under.

**romeyroam** · Posted On: 10/02/2007 8:59am

I really want to "now" why lamokoio "nows" they're going to win this case, when he is not, in point of fact, a party to this lawsuit. as far as the lawyer thing goes, i don't think for a second that anyone that has read this thread thinks that Mr. Creeden is a lawyer.
Mr. Creeden, I understand that you feel a strong sense of loyalty to Mr. Aguillar and the BDFS, but don't you think you're doing all the parties you represent a serious disservice by posting as so many different people and taking such an antisocial approach to your dealings with people you want something from? Because you obviously want something out of all of this.
Alot of the legalese stuff you've posted here seems to do alot of supporting for Mr. Webb so you might want to rethink what you're trying to accomplish on this website, unless of course you just want to argue with people, in which case you appear to be dramatically out of your league.

**ninjoo** · Posted On: 10/02/2007 10:13am

Originally Posted by lamokio

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I answered all your guestions you ask about a man I know nothing of. I told you who monies was sent too. you asked ther names I give them to you. Bullshido stuck thier nose in first when they came to countdante.com and picked up on this sh it. Bullshido brought me here. I answered your questions but noooo there is a big Ashida knim conspiracy in the U.S. Lamokio is John Creeden who the bdfs claims is a professional fighter with 40 fights who threatens people via email. Creeden sent an email claiming that he did not call my mother in the middle of the night and tell Her I was dead. then turned around and threatened my wife. Thai is what the peice of trash did. Now someone say he sent emails to another person threatening me thru them. I will post one of the emails he sent me regarding my wife.

I gave this guy a grand for a copy of film footage didnt copyright it left it so he could do anyhting he wanted with it to make what ever he could. So this is what I get. This used to be on a dailey basis. Until I blocked the guy from my email.

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if the footage was **** than why was it on you-tube . and the lie with your 81 year old mother and if i send you the money i want an agreement for the use of the film so it can never be used again. not by you or floyd. see it was about an agreement. you lied buddy you lied to webb and you lied to me. and we got alot to dicuss buddy. you think i was not going to find out your a fraud the people in your city gave you up. you are a laugh in the martial art's community. been in touch with tap-out and the ufc your black listed and i will continue until you come clean with what happened you don't just stop this sort of thing. maybe you should take up basket weaving or something your speed. you got and are nothing in the martial art's community your a laugh. just like the guy in the hokiddo school he said and i quote[ barron never trained a day in his life he's been know around here as a hustler barron only care's about money he is not respected] end quote. so by barron LOSER wendy n eed's a real man like me and billy we'll treat her right. and don't bother replying you don't mean **** until i get an agreement **** wad

This is one of those posts from Lamokio that made understanding "who is who?" so difficult when I first started reading this thread. Lamokio - did you post this? And for what reason? This information is hardly complimentary nor supportive of you or your position.

**Dsimon3387** · Posted On: 10/02/2007 10:37am

Originally Posted by johnpatricio

Yeah, but where is the proof of copyright ownership? As far as I know Webb got permission from the people that actually took those photos to use them... and even if he didn't, he claims "fair use", which I believe his documentary actually qualifies under.

I was just showing him the clip. I don't believe there is copyright infringement from what I can tell.

I believe that Floyd is well with-in his rights. There is a serious case of the "spirit versus the letter" of the law in this situation and it seems to me that any judge should be able to see that material being hoarded by a bunch of half wits is a disservice to the general public.

**ninjoo** · Posted On: 10/02/2007 11:29am

On a side-note, Black Dragon South Africa has completely updated their website;

http://www.blackdragon.co.za/

Complete with goofy-ass sword demo and Grandmaster "ordination" ceremonies footage. Also interesting is the newly re-worked fake ninja history which seems to tie in actually Japanese history with the creation of a brand new Ninja, the "Black Dragon Ninja".

Lastly, I noticed that they have not abandoned their connection with "Grandmaster Kim".

Obviously they are not afraid of Lamokio's fearsome legal powers. <smirk>?

**lamokio** · Posted On: 10/02/2007 11:42am

Originally Posted by Lord Of Chaos

central falls.

and i WILL say this- after i just read that ASShida got paid $1000 from the film producers (?) if that is indeed true i'll agree that is extremely fucked up, and i'll actually say that i hope you nail his ass to the wall (i'll back you guys up on that one any day- that guy sucks). is floyd involved in that **** too? dunno, but creedan, gotta work on your delivery man.... at the very least- if you guys stop this film from being made.... pretty please with sugar on top, at LEAST write a decent book about bdfs and count dante. for the love of christ if everyone walks away from this empty handed that'd be a complete waste.

good luck.

You know were the Wyatt is chaos I work their. We don't want the film stopped but like I said sign the copy right and trademark agreement's. Everybody watches the Soprano's right they had to wait to hear from steve Perry to give them permission to use it. Same thing

**lamokio** · Posted On: 10/02/2007 11:46am

Originally Posted by johnpatricio

Yeah, but where is the proof of copyright ownership? As far as I know Webb got permission from the people that actually took those photos to use them... and even if he didn't, he claims "fair use", which I believe his documentary actually qualifies under.

Look their a letter from Crista Dante to William Jr from 75 that reliquishes all right's to the BDFS anf WKF and the Book to him. You know that John and it's in several magazine's. Look the copyright's are 69,86 that copyright was the old book from 69 so William Jr own's it. Then 91,2001 and 2007 so people should get their story straight. And John what's this that you got contacted by R.I. State Police give me his name and number and I'll contact him myself.

**lamokio** · Posted On: 10/02/2007 11:47am

So before William JR dies he gave all holding's to William III so they got nothing

**lamokio** · Posted On: 10/02/2007 11:49am

Originally Posted by ninjoo

This is one of those posts from Lamokio that made understanding "who is who?" so difficult when I first started reading this thread. Lamokio - did you post this? And for what reason? This information is hardly complimentary nor supportive of you or your position.

That is an e-mail from Bullshido when he came on from the thread Judo vs. BDFS. That e-mail was from me to Barron when I didn't get the user agreement

**lamokio** · Posted On: 10/02/2007 11:50am

Originally Posted by ninjoo

On a side-note, Black Dragon South Africa has completely updated their website;

http://www.blackdragon.co.za/

Complete with goofy-ass sword demo and Grandmaster "ordination" ceremonies footage. Also interesting is the newly re-worked fake ninja history which seems to tie in actually Japanese history with the creation of a brand new Ninja, the "Black Dragon Ninja".

Lastly, I noticed that they have not abandoned their connection with "Grandmaster Kim".

Obviously they are not afraid of Lamokio's fearsome legal powers. <smirk>?

You know i'm going to William III today and I'll post Stoffel's attempt to jump Ashida's ship to our side . So before you talk know what your talking about.