Why this guys lies, I have no idea.
John Creeden, as time will tell, is a stranger to the truth. No one ever offered anyone $50 for anything. No one ever tried to take advantage of his father but him. After my associate made the deal for the footage with Creeden's father for $1000.00, Creeden III jumped in, became the recipient of the money and tried to change the deal.
But Creeden apparently believes his own lies no matter how much he changes them. He has nothing to do with the legal case. His name is on no legal papers. He is a loyal vassal of William Aguiar hoping to catch some of the millions spilling over from the lawsuit Aguiar has filed against me. Oh, by the way, the attorney of record representing William Aguiar III in this suit is, guess who....... William Aguiar III.
This did not have to go to court, All they had to do was show their right of attorney I asked for two years ago. This is their choice. It still has nothing to do with my rights to Fair Use. I guess we will find out in court.
By the way I prayed last week to be delivered from people of such integrity and good business sense as John Creeden.
Originally Posted by lamokio
Last edited by floydwebb; 9/11/2007 11:16am at .
Careful Sam, you may find yourself charged with copyright infringement over the below artwork. This is one of the images they claim copyright too.
Ba Afraid, be very afraid.....:sleepy1:
Originally Posted by Samuel Browning
Yeah good business. Good business decisions can involve ethics, despite your all too common retort. Intellectual property is a tricky issue and one that sometimes could be sorted out if people used a little common sense and altruism instead of lawyers.
Why don't you become a benafactor and help Floyd make the movie with the footage? Remember the purpose of the endevour is not to steal technical info, nor is it to mass market a product like a martial arts video.... it is to share information about a person, to give sympathetic treatment of a subject that needs it.
You keep saying it is about business, what business are you in? the sycophant business? Come on, I understand your issue with martial arts techniques on video, but this is not the same thing. it is an educational endevour.
Originally Posted by lamokio
See Floyd Webb was trying to screw around William V Aguiar III msince 05. Floyd is doing damage control know that's why you never heard of him till know. He know's he's screwed don't believe the hype. Why doesn't Floyd contact William now. All of a sudden he don't have a lawyer think Floyd let the judge decide that's what William did took it out of everybody hand's. The injuction is coming and your film stop's till the end of the suit.
Floyd is a little man who tries to over talk people and his cheap hustle stop's know. Ask yourself this why so mad with me . Because i exposed them for the fraud's that they are they thought I was going to throw in with them and they got exposed. Every move I made was threw a lawyer's advice not a street hustle like them.
Like i've said I haven't made a dime from all this and i don't want the dirty money. The money Barron gave me is sitting in an account and I'm gonna let the judge decide were it goes. With William's e-mail's and tape and document's you have nothing.
I'm going to give you a tid bit of info. William took Ashida Kim's web site down in 05 and know threw Floyd Webb and Barron Sheppard they are trying to do it again. That's a conspiracy to de-fraud.
And Floyd my father had you pegged as a Idiot and a Judas . When I brought you dinner at a place called Tort's bar and grill in Swansea Massachusett's.
You will see when you go to court like a I said you can't calculate what you can't see. Their are Fair Use lawyer's and their are copyright lawyere's. William doesn't want littigation before court he want's you in court. So I told William to wear clean underwear so you can kiss his ass.
Ohhh snap! Interwebz fight!
Originally Posted by lamokio
And what are you planning on doing with the footage? Letting it rot in some safe somewhere? Trying to put another add in a comic book? Do you have some guidelines that would dictate who could use the footage to document the story of Keenan? Are you looking for a particular kind of visionary?
Your issue with Kim is different, though a lot of time has passed and frankly the value of Keenan's martial arts ideas should probably be public knowledge. I mean anyone with any sense can see that the material in the manuals is common knowledge to most in the martial arts community. If people were truly educated about the arts I doubt a legal claim that Dante's work, at this point, is anything more than common knowledge would stand up in court.
What designs beyond a few more bucks and the enrichment of a few lawyers do you have on information that could be used creatively and constructively to tell the story of Keenan? Just curious because I am betting that your intention is to try to squeeze as many dollars out of something which, even if it is legally justified, is dubious regarding your ownership claim. Talk about a hustle.
Look it's about copyright not footage these people turn it around. William not me is bringing them to court for the violation's already. The violation's that have happened already they all got cease and deciest's the way your suppose to do it by the law. You don't comply it set's off a law suit period.
The several film maker's I've talked to alway's deal with copyright's and trademark's . That's the nature of the beast with film. But to use someone's copyrighted material for profit that's breaking the law. See floyd and Barron and Ashida Kim need to read the law.
William has several project's [ One which has a very young John Timothy Keehan and A 20 something Edmund Parker doing Chuan Fa Kempo ] you tell me what's that worth. That was shot in 16mm about 93 minutes long. That's being produced by R.I.S.D That's Rhode Island School of Design graphic's department. So i'll say it again you can't calculate what you can't see.
And if we release anymore stuff on Dante Floyd will steal it. Floyd say's he got this some were and got this here. In court they have got to prove were they got it from.
See the stuff William and I got is from Dante himself. When he moved out here his stuff was never un-packed. And when he died in Chicago his wife Crista just left the stuff here when she signed the intellectual property right's to William Aguiar JR. I was reading Keehan's diary yesterday and all of his so called friend's. Let's just say the only one he trusted was Russel Brown. But those 3500 or so page's will never be published because they ie Floyd and Barron and Ashida it's just to big for them . Were going to make a book about that alone.
These thing's take time we have all the time in the world but they don't their time is running out.
First of all, please don't write a book. Second point, just holding a a picture or film clip does not make it copyright protected material. This legal protection would have made all of this nonsense go away. And the last point is that it doesn't seem that you have any understanding of any of the legal issues involved. It seems that you somehow are hoping that when the dust settles, you hope someone hands you a big bag of money. If that is what this is all about, then good luck with that.
I don't pretend to know the nature of your specific beef but here is what I care about:
They had an article in the New York Times recently about Universities that were using very expensive research and technologies to record the genetic codes of human beings. Now naturally these universities wanted to protect their intellectual property correct Lamokio? So basically these universities, bastions of education, are in the courts trying to essentially create copyrights on the human genetic code.... Every student, every scientist would have to be at the mercy at these universities if they wanted to cure a disease that required them to look at the genetic code of a human being.
Now I understand the money and time involved in cutting edge research but in this case can you see a problem? Who does our genitic code really belong too? My point is that any restrictions on knowledge and information that could benefit society has to be carefully considered. Who will cure cancer if only some people can look at the information charted by the universities? Obviously historical stuff on Dante is not on the same order, but the issue is similar and it will have major effects on society.
I only hope there is some sense of responsability to the public to let people who want to discuss what happened get information that is not heresay... information like that in your posession. That is why I am asking you about criteria. What if a guy is a talented film maker who wants to do a great job on a film... but has no funds, or limited funds?
Don't you think there is a difference is using a guy's name to sell one's credentials and techniques, like Kim allegedly does and in making a film about the guy? Whatever anyone thinks about the specific people involved IMO this is a big difference between Kim and Web. Surely you would acknowledge this?
My point is not to attack anyone merely to state that it is sad that Dante's story cannot be told because it should be told by somoene. As I told mr Webb, my first karate club, where I trained for 12 gruelling years, sustained injuries and learned about the limits of what I could achieve as a martial artist and person, was in some ways influenced by what Dante started in the midwest. As a 44 year old father today I still depend on what my Sensei taught me in the middle of one of Baltimore's worse neighborhoods. That, for the record is my axe to grind. Naturally I was delighted that mr Webb was going to tell the story of Dante in film and I am hoping that you and your organization have the sense of responsability that goes along with the sense of ownership of information about Dante.
Originally Posted by lamokio
Look like I said again and again it's not about the money. It's about the ownership of what they say he doesn't own. But he does own it and when as Bullshido say's [TROOL'S] come to say it's in public Domain and try to steal it you go to court.
The book when people come out of the wood work and offer you an incredable amount of money. You do the book but it take's time.
As for me knowing the law i'm way a head of all of you on that curve.
Creeden v. Sanieoff et al
Plaintiff: John Creeden
Defendant: Perry Sanieoff, Harold Simansky and Linda Simansky
Case Number: 1:2007cv11149
Filed: June 21, 2007
Court: Massachusetts District Court
Office: Boston Office [ Court Info ]
County: XX US, Outside State
Presiding Judge: Judge Nathaniel M. Gorton
Nature of Suit: Torts - Injury - Other Personal Injury
Cause: 28:1332 Diversity-Personal Injury
Jury Demanded By: Plaintiff
So Tom what qualification's do you have. The diversity part mean's a 750.000 question. This is what I love about computer's you just don't know who's sitting on the other end of these thing's. Out of the 9 cases i tried i've won 9.
It's not about internet troll's some of us actually went to school and graduated. I know my way around a court house. Discovery and injuction's will's and estates. I've let you people think your all smart. All my friend's and in the law field and banker's.
Floyd is not smart niether is Barron and Ashida Kim. They have all conspired to de-fraud Mr Aguiar dating back to 2005 to present. When William file's for a Motion of Discovery all the Financial record's and were they got their info and who they paid come's out to the public. And vise versa if you did nothing wrong then you don't have to worry about nothing.
And why not right a book it just set's the record straight. I want the diary published but alot od Dante's friend woul;d go to jail.