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  1. ViciousFlamingo is offline
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    Posted On:
    10/12/2007 12:26pm


     Style: BJJ & Judo

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiken
    Um...

    What in the hell did my post have to do with that other quote?
    Here's a hint: It's not because you are both about to win medals of honor from the DHS.

    This thread should have ended with Judobum's first post.
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    10/12/2007 12:52pm


     Style: Budo Taijutsu

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViciousFlamingo
    Here's a hint: It's not because you are both about to win medals of honor from the DHS.

    This thread should have ended with Judobum's first post.
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    10/12/2007 1:29pm


     Style: BJJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judobum
    Kuzure is better if you want to work for subs since you're not as locked in as straight kesa. Pretty much the only move I've been able to use straight kesa for is to transition into an arm triangle by slipping your head under the trapped arm and pushing it over and into kata gatame (arm triangle).
    I get an Ezekiel choke from straight kesa a lot too in gi....
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    Posted On:
    10/12/2007 11:39pm


     Style: Judo

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    Quote Originally Posted by chingythingy
    I get an Ezekiel choke from straight kesa a lot too in gi....
    I can't see how that would work. You'd have to give up the arm to put the choke on which should result in you immediately being reversed. I guess if you could sink it in really quickly you could tap him before he had a chance to roll you over but I can't see that happening against anyone compentant.

    Maybe if you describe the technique from there it'd make more sense.
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    10/13/2007 12:13am


     Style: BJJ & Judo (1k)

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I use a sleeve wheel choke a lot from arm triangle and I can see how that would work if the guy is trying to turn away from you. Here's a video from the Belfast Throwdown featuring that particular combination.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uZsDgxISOM

    edit - But I can't figure out why anyone would try and turn away from a regular kesa.
    Last edited by MEGALEF; 10/13/2007 12:15am at .
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    Posted On:
    10/16/2007 7:43am


     Style: Judo

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    Quote Originally Posted by MEGALEF
    edit - But I can't figure out why anyone would try and turn away from a regular kesa.
    Spazing to avoid the pin in Judo, if you make enough space, scissor your legs and turn really quickly you can get to a fairly safe turtle, and by fairly safe turtle I mean a tutled position thats could be worse but could be better and which you might conceivably hold for 10 seconds.

    Oh, you could also do it because your a retard.
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    Posted On:
    10/16/2007 9:56am


     Style: BJJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judobum
    Maybe if you describe the technique from there it'd make more sense.
    All right - to be fair I only set up the top arm with a collar grip under the head from there, and transition into a different position to finish. I work it in conjunction with the arm triangle as an attack. If they are occupied keeping you from getting your head behind their elbow they are many times distracted enough that you can slip in your sleeve grip on the sly and tripod up to finish.
  8. MEGALEF is offline

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    10/16/2007 10:25am


     Style: BJJ & Judo (1k)

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    In all seriousness, I think retard reactions to techniques should always be addressed. Being overwhelmed by a retard reaction simply because you weren't expecting it should be avoided.
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    Posted On:
    10/16/2007 10:33am


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    Quote Originally Posted by MEGALEF
    In all seriousness, I think retard reactions to techniques should always be addressed. Being overwhelmed by a retard reaction simply because you weren't expecting it should be avoided.
    Totally agree. I guess turning into you and turning away are 2 baseline responses that should always be considered. One of those many times is a retard response or a mistake.
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