your opinions on which martial arts are truly useful?
It has been said that eighty percent of fights end up on the ground,but i believe that is because eighty percent of the people who get into fights do not know how to fight while on their feet.
A lot of people watch UFC and automatically assume that MMA and BJJ are the ultimate forms of combat,yet they do not keep in mind that on the streets there are no refrees and rules do not apply (try grappling two guys at once)
People watch movies and automatically assume that whatever martial art they see is the ****. But the truth is, There is only one Bruce Lee and only one chuck norris,these people got to that level through training and constant practice,the martial artist makes the martial art and not vice versa(going to jeet kun do school will not turn you into marshall law or Bruce lee).
Different Martial arts came to existence for different reasons,and as such certain martial arts have became obsolete if you look at them from a self defense level...I am sorry but trying to pull the five animal kung fu with someone in harlem or new orleans will only get you killed these days.
this is being said I just wanted to know your opinions on which martial arts are truly useful from a self defense stand point and don't give me the whole experience slash "years of training" speech,people have jobs and families they are not going to leave everything to go and train in a chinese monastery for thirty years
Sports. Except TKD.
Funnily enough we've never discussed this before.
Boxings gotta be up there. HIt hard then run.
Originally Posted by sochin101
Training log. Here
JFS vs The Villain here
Indeed - and there's lots of video evidence on YouTube to back that up...
Originally Posted by Abusivemelon
MA's that train in a competitive resisting environment in a ruleset that allows for full contact for both striking and grappling.
Grappling isn't as useless as you think on the street, it allows for YOU to be the one planting the guy onto the ground, and it gives you the skills to get off the ground if you are put there, which is better than not knowing wtf to do and getting soccer kicked in the face.
Originally Posted by Truculent Sheep
any martial art that is taught correctly and practiced with aliveness will serve you, but if you want to be a well rounded fighter you need to have both stand up and ground fighting skills ... that's the reality today ....
A lot of people who watch MMA and BJJ practitioners automatically assume we don't understand the difference between the sport arena and the concrete arena.
Originally Posted by rooseveltdon
We understand that there are no rules or refs in the street. Don't worry, we'll still bust you in the balls, crush your throat, beat you in the back of the head, not stop the strangle or joint lock just because you tapped if you want to fight us outside the Dojo. The thing is, We probably have had better training to set you up to pull off these simple moves or concepts.
Also, try keeping your pride in check, having situational awareness/assessment, and just be a nice guy and you'd probably never have to worry about grappling two people at once.
The best MA for you is the one you enjoy. There is not bullet proof system. However, the facts are in. The best fighters are the well rounded ones that participate in full contact sparring.
I dunno where this "80% of fights end up on the ground" thing comes from. As I've mentioned in other threads, I'm not a bouncer or anything, but in my limited experience back from my misspent youth, 0% of fights go to the ground. Unless you count knocking the other guy down and putting the boots to him. I repeat, 0% of real street fights I've ever witnessed (not many, admittedly), ended up on the ground.
Oh, back to the original question. As other posters have said, any ma where live (near-) full contact sparring makes up a significant part of the curriculum, will serve you well.
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